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Every gov't knows that oil is a finite resource and they are laying claim world wide to it. The United States has pursued a deliberate path to claim oil and precious metals in the world.
Your viewpoint. (serious only)
I wouldn't necessarily dispute that, only the US does not want to possess oil, natural gas or other resources, it merely wants to control them, and in particular, control the end points where those resources are distributed.
Why?
Because if you control the end point, then you control the currency in which the resources are sold on the world market. That is why the US cannot allow the oil, natural gas and mineral resources in Central Asia to be piped or trucked through Russia or Iran. Those resources must go through Afghanistan into Pakistan, where the US can control their sale.
If countries start adopting Euro-bourses or basket currencies, then that is harmful to the US Dollar, because it decreases its value while increasing the value of other currencies.
There are other ways to accommodate expensive petroleum fuel costs than just drill for more.
Do we really need to subsidize the airline industry that uses more refined fuel per passenger mile than any other form of transportation? Is it really necessary for corporate salesmen to travel by air? Cannot their job be mostly done via the web? Is it absolutely necessary for mass air transport from Minneapolis to Orlando so the masses can waste their money in Disney World?
Must we continue to sell under taxed oil to the long haul trucking industry so they can avoid paying for the damage they do to the Interstate highways?
Do we need to base our plastics industry on petroleum derived feedstock instead of vegetable oils?
Do we have to heat houses with refined oil instead of nuclear electricity, waste wood or hard coal?
Must we over fertilize, over irrigate and over pesticide our agricultural production so we can sell underpriced food to the third world thus creating a surplus of unemployed farmers desperately trying to get into the US legally or not? It would save a lot of fuel oil if we used dry land farming in the semi desert, no farming in the true desert and more local seasonal produce where possible?
Do we really need interstate capable automobiles in every household? Could we be satisfied with a local commuter car (electric, diesel hybrid or compressed air) for most use and rentals for vacations? Do we really need overpriced suburban sprawl that is a result of automobile based transportation? Could the autos be replaces with light rail and trolleys?
There are many more ways to reduce oil consumption but some would be less convenient than current methods of accomplishing the tasks and all would reduce the profits generated by the world wide petroleum industry. This is the reason we will continue with our current consumptive mode and the world will try and match our “Prosperity” while the really cheap oil is replaced first by expensive oil and then the substitutes for both supply and consumption.
Restrictions in the availability will damage the developed industrial world, some more than others, but will stop the industrial development of the less industrialized countries because of sheer costs. The resulting reduction in population will not be pretty but will result.
well I agree but EVERYTHING is oil. no amount of wind, solar hydro can fufill that need. you can't fly a commercial jet on solar.
Funny you forgot to mention that I said nuclear and running heavy machinery on bio-fuels, which is what Virgin airlines is experimenting with right now.
Anyway, that's the direction many nations are going. They are combining conservation technology with wind, solar, geo, hydro, and nuclear power to run their economies. There's no need for oil when we can grow our own energy fuel sources from algae.
Oil's days are numbered and the 21st will see a clean energy technology revolution. I just hope the USA benefits the most from that revolution and not Europe or Asia.
at some point in time there will be no more oil. Martenson predicts that this decade will see some radical changes in supply and demand. my family is moving towards sustainable agriculture not only due to this trend but because it is simply healthier to consume food that we grow,.....but at some point there will be no more oil. that is a stunning thing to ponder........everything either runs it or is partly built from it........hmmm.
at some point in time there will be no more oil. Martenson predicts that this decade will see some radical changes in supply and demand..
The "experts" have been saying that every decade since the 70's (and probably before then but I'm not old enough to rememebr that). The fact is that htere are more known reserves of oil to day than at any time ever in the past. The world will end due to other causes long before we run out of oil.
Funny you forgot to mention that I said nuclear and running heavy machinery on bio-fuels, which is what Virgin airlines is experimenting with right now.
Anyway, that's the direction many nations are going. They are combining conservation technology with wind, solar, geo, hydro, and nuclear power to run their economies. There's no need for oil when we can grow our own energy fuel sources from algae.
Oil's days are numbered and the 21st will see a clean energy technology revolution. I just hope the USA benefits the most from that revolution and not Europe or Asia.
Oil is not just used for energy as commonly concieved. Its used to make probably every single thing you see when you look around yourself. Can we smelt steel with solar or nuclear power? Can we build nuclear plants at all without oil? Can we build hydro facilities with no oil? Biofuels need oil too, unless you think we can farm millions of acres by hand to produce corn to make fuell for the automobiles we cant build because we need oil for everything that goes into the car. Cant even have styrafoam Dunkin Donuts cups without oil.
interesting. I read that they say consistently that peak oil flow was 1970 and it has been reducing since then not that every decade they say that we are running out but it is being reduced.
Oil is not just used for energy as commonly concieved. Its used to make probably every single thing you see when you look around yourself. Can we smelt steel with solar or nuclear power? Can we build nuclear plants at all without oil? Can we build hydro facilities with no oil? Biofuels need oil too, unless you think we can farm millions of acres by hand to produce corn to make fuell for the automobiles we cant build because we need oil for everything that goes into the car. Cant even have styrafoam Dunkin Donuts cups without oil.
We do what we have always done, we use the tools of today to build the technologies of tomorrow.
We do what we have always done, we use the tools of today to build the technologies of tomorrow.
well nuclear fusion would be great to have come along for the 21st century
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