Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-05-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
86,052 posts, read 84,464,288 times
Reputation: 27720

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Actually, CO2 is just one of the players. H2O, CH4, N2O and CFCs also contribute to the green house effect. All total, mans contribution is 0.28% of the green house effect.
Once the EPA gets their cards lined up with regulations, fines and taxes we'll be down to 0% and living in caves.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-05-2011, 08:48 AM
 
11,155 posts, read 15,704,085 times
Reputation: 4209
Quote:
Originally Posted by thecoalman View Post
Call it what it is, if you're penalizing one product to make it more expensive so you can promote another its not the free market.
That's my point. You all are demonizing this science because you're scared of the political effects. Propose truly free marke solutions. Politics is, in the end, a marketplace of ideas. There are many solutions to every problem. Stop denying and start using the market to simply ending pollution on the local level. The rest will take care of itself.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-05-2011, 08:51 AM
 
11,155 posts, read 15,704,085 times
Reputation: 4209
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guamanians View Post
Climate change may be real, but it is a natural phenomena, and out of our control. I'm all for clean air... if these global warming alarmists (i.e. Gore) want to continue their 'research" thats ok:- as long as they pay for it!
You're just spouting off political talking points, assuming Al Gore has anything to do with this (perhaps you first heard of this issue from him, so you think he created it), and presenting your belief as fact. The science has already accounted for natural influx. What they're measuring is the human contribution on top of that. That's where it differentiates.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-05-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
6,864 posts, read 12,075,211 times
Reputation: 6744
I'm still not understanding how 'global warming' has caused two years in a row of 1000's of record breaking low temps and freeze temps as far south as Dallas, New Orleans, Orlando, Miami. The 'global warmers' are trying to explain the record breaking snow as another fact of global warming. But one fact they neglect to state. To have 'snow' you need temperatures below 32 degrees.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-05-2011, 01:14 PM
 
33,387 posts, read 34,832,973 times
Reputation: 20030
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefly View Post
A few bogus rogues does not discredit a massive body of research from many different funding sources, nationalities, and institutions that create a "broad scientific consensus on the man-made causes of global warming".
it does if those different institutions start with bogus numbers supplied by the rogues.

the earths climate has changed since pretty much day one. we look at a CO2 level of 380ppm and panic, bit forget that 65 million years ago we had CO2 levels twice as high. we also forget that 700 million years ago we had 0ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere. we also forget that mars, venus, and other planets in the solar system are also warming, but if you listen to the global climate change alarmists, the other planets warming is natural, but somehow earths warming is man caused.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-05-2011, 02:08 PM
 
41,813 posts, read 51,039,086 times
Reputation: 17864
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluefly View Post
Propose truly free marke solution .
Such as what? I can heat a 2000 sq. foot home and provide domestic hot water for about $800 a year with coal and that's anthracite which is double the cost of soft coal.

If it's free market that means the government is going to stay out of it and let the consumer decide what they are going to use. Nobody is going to opt for something that cost triple, quadruple or whatever the amount is.

The only reason we have solar installations, wind installations and ethanol is because the taxpayer is footing the bill. That is NOT the free market.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2011, 08:58 PM
 
Location: North America
5,960 posts, read 5,545,487 times
Reputation: 1951
This is the sort of thing Gore warned us about:

Mexican Cold Wave Leaves 7 People Dead and 34 Zoo Animals - Hispanically Speaking News

Quote:
With temperatures reaching -4F , the arctic freeze in Northern Mexico has lead to seven deaths in the state of Chihuahua, and many animals .
The zoo at Ciudad Aldama lost five iguanas, two crocodiles, a capuchin monkey, 15 parakeets and 12 serpents to hypothermia the owner of the Serenguetti Zoo, Alberto Hernandez, said.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-06-2011, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Reality
9,949 posts, read 8,850,595 times
Reputation: 3315
Quote:
Originally Posted by clb10 View Post
Gore warned us about a lot of stuff that would make him a rich man, what's your point?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2011, 06:03 AM
C.C
 
2,235 posts, read 2,362,653 times
Reputation: 461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Backspace View Post
Gore warned us about a lot of stuff that would make him a rich man, what's your point?
It all makes more sense the way Paul Krugman explains it:

Got a drought? That's exactly what you expect from man-made global warming. Got a flood? That's exactly what you expect from man-made global warming.

It's quite profound - I had to read it several times before I was able to fully grasp the blinding brilliance of his analysis...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-07-2011, 06:14 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,863 posts, read 46,611,558 times
Reputation: 18521
A crisis has to be created, for the government to herd the population.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:19 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top