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Paper pushing is a part of even industry, but the goal of industry is product, building, mining, etc. There is inventory, HR, design, etc, that is needed. The financial should be orientated towards manufacturing (industrial) as well, if not-parts of it, yeah get rid of it. The point is wealth generation and the state should promote that and one way is to be sure the population is healthy (health, environment, full employment, etc) as well as the economy, which for wealth generation is industrial and individualized socially. The goal of capitalism is the wealth of the state, and individuals grow their wealth as a consequence. This is where capitalism started and where it should still be.
No Chance in heck do I ever wont my heathcare coming from the gov
I was watching this show the other day about the smallest girl in the world. She lives in England, her parents were disparate in trying to find out exactly what was wrong with her.She needed an mri to find out. While celebrating her 2nd birthday they were freaking out because it very well could have been her last. They didnt know because they had to wait to get an MRI.
She had to wait over 2 mths for an MRI to be scheduled just to know if at the age of 2 if she would live to 3
No thank you. I do NOT want gov anywhere near my healthcare and me having to wait 2 mths to find out what is wrong with my child
No, but I will continue to correct misinformation about Canadian health care were I find it.
Yes, we have fewer CT scanners than the US, but perhaps in the long term this is a good thing.
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Here's a chance to test your medical knowledge:
Will getting two or three CT scans of the abdomen expose you to the same amount of radiation as people who lived near the atomic blast that ravaged Hiroshima in 1945 but survived?
and don't doctors love to do tests. Then they send you to another doctor and he/she was to do the same one because they don't like to look at other doctors work.
The health care insurance industry in the US employs over 600 000 people. Most at reasonably high salaries.
Most other first-world countries do not see the point of such a middleman at all. And most of them get better results. All of them have far lower costs.
I agree. That's why we should all have Medicare. The whole system would be about getting good results, not profits.
Right...and how in the world would it be funded. It's a giant ponzi scheme....the money from the people under age 65 that are paying into it currently, is used to cover the cost of medical care for the people over age 65 or disabled that are currently receiving it through Medicare or disability. Where's the money going to come from to allow every one under age 65 to also receive Medicare. Don't forget, many of them don't pay into it currently too......any one that doesn't work, whether it's because they are supported by others, unemployed or too young.
I somewhat agree with Sanders. I wouldn't say we have to get rid of private insurance, but just allow everyone to sign up for Medicare. If they want to keep private insurance or sign up for Medicare and also supplement Medicare with private insurance, then they should be able to do so.
Thats not a bad idea. We need options thats for sure. I still think that walk-in rates need to come down to reality. Right now people are faced with difficult choices. here is a scenario...
1. pay $500/month for health insurance.
2. do w/o health insurance altogether
Both of these options are bad
option 1 costs too much, and the family simply can not afford it.
opt #2 forces people to pay out of pocket for healthcare. This is VERY expensive! So, the person will most likely not go to the doctor unless it is a life thretening situation. Their health will suffer because they didn't get treatment in a timely manner.
healthcare is TOO EXPENSIVE with or without insurance
The health care insurance industry in the US employs over 600 000 people. Most at reasonably high salaries.
Most other first-world countries do not see the point of such a middleman at all. And most of them get better results. All of them have far lower costs.
Top level executives and those involved in sales that are successful and paid by commission, receive high salaries but, those are only a fraction of the total number employed in the industry. Most receive an average or less than average salary....sometimes many
in customer service are temps or part-time. If you get rid of them, then the government has to hire people to do the administration work that they do now. The government never runs anything efficiently, when the private sector is allowed to compete freely, they manage to do the job for less including their profit. The problem happens when insurance companies are mandated to take on more risk and therefore more expenses from more claims. Insurance is the management of risk, if the government is going to interfere with mandates that force them to assume more risk, then the government has the responsibility of evenly distributing that risk among the insurers so that no one company has more of a burden than another....that way it doesn't interfere with their ability to compete with each other....that's what risk pools are for.
Right...and how in the world would it be funded. It's a giant ponzi scheme....the money from the people under age 65 that are paying into it currently, is used to cover the cost of medical care for the people over age 65 or disabled that are currently receiving it through Medicare or disability. Where's the money going to come from to allow every one under age 65 to also receive Medicare. Don't forget, many of them don't pay into it currently too......any one that doesn't work, whether it's because they are supported by others, unemployed or too young.
Simple solution...Medicare is not health insurance...Get rid of free medicare for those over 65, and others that can afford the govt. premiums....We have no such thing here. I'm 70 and pay what every other single person does for my health care ($57 per month)...The US needs to model an affordable system on one that has been working well in other countries. There are several models that work well.
Thats not a bad idea. We need options thats for sure. I still think that walk-in rates need to come down to reality. Right now people are faced with difficult choices. here is a scenario...
1. pay $500/month for health insurance.
2. do w/o health insurance altogether
Both of these options are bad
option 1 costs too much, and the family simply can not afford it.
opt #2 forces people to pay out of pocket for healthcare. This is VERY expensive! So, the person will most likely not go to the doctor unless it is a life thretening situation. Their health will suffer because they didn't get treatment in a timely manner.
healthcare is TOO EXPENSIVE with or without insurance
Health care is NOT too expensive if it is done right, but private insurance companies have to go for that to happen.
Before somebody jumps in with how high the taxes are in Canada to pay for universal health care...
Last year I paid $10,333 on an income of $57,510 Federal and provincial tax. This amount includes non refundable tax credits.
Had I lived in the US my tax bill would have been $10,559 just for federal tax. I also would have had to deal with this...
The US does require employers and employees to pay certain payroll related taxes including:
(1) a portion of an employee's Social Security (FICA), taxable at 6.2% of the wage base ( currently $106,800, annually adjusted)
(2) federal unemployment tax (FUTA) at 6.2% of the first $7,000 of wages (less credits of up to 5.4% for state unemployment tax)
(3) state unemployment tax (SUT) which varies from state to state
(4) Medicare at 1.45% of total wages paid.
Most states and some municipalities also impose income taxes that vary in rates and bases. The US imposes other taxes on individuals such as gift tax and estate tax.
There is no estate or gift tax in Canada.
If Canadians can afford universal health care why can't you?
No Chance in heck do I ever wont my heathcare coming from the gov
I was watching this show the other day about the smallest girl in the world. She lives in England, her parents were disparate in trying to find out exactly what was wrong with her.She needed an mri to find out. While celebrating her 2nd birthday they were freaking out because it very well could have been her last. They didnt know because they had to wait to get an MRI.
She had to wait over 2 mths for an MRI to be scheduled just to know if at the age of 2 if she would live to 3
No thank you. I do NOT want gov anywhere near my healthcare and me having to wait 2 mths to find out what is wrong with my child
"A recent "Investor's Business Daily" article provided very
interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations
International Health Organization.
Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years
after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%
Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received
treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%
Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it
within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%
Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within
one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%
Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18
Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in
"excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%
I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable to England or Canada".
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