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Old 02-05-2011, 05:44 PM
 
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Logic fail. We're not talking about refrigerator repairpersons!
I think some of the responses are very chidish, not you in particular.

The poster offers a, thinking outside the box, solution to our ever diminishing supply of doctors.

I would rather people offer something of value than just casting silly remarks, as usually happens here at CD.

I do have a question for you. Do you pay the who takes care of the brakes on your car as much as you do your doctor? They both have your life in their hands. Do you only use a cerified mechanic?

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Old 02-05-2011, 05:44 PM
 
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The certification process you describe would not be viewed as legitimate by the public and therefore would fail.

I was thinking it would be more likely we would end up with 3-4 national certifying bodies that are well regarded.

If democrats really believed in personal liberty and choice they would support the option of physicians getting private certifications only. Same with Republicans.
Never said that Dems really believe in personal liberty, but i know damn well that the Republicans don't.

That said, three to four well regarded certifying bodies could possibly work. But well regarded by whom? And who would police them?
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Old 02-05-2011, 05:48 PM
 
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Private certifying bodies are a few people, not THE people.

You're talking about a guild for the most part. I have nothing against those....so long as they're fixing plumbing fixtures and not my heart.
And what about the brakes on your car?
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Old 02-05-2011, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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Never said that Dems really believe in personal liberty, but i know damn well that the Republicans don't.

That said, three to four well regarded certifying bodies could possibly work. But well regarded by whom? And who would police them?
Well regarded by the public. The public would police them. If a bunch of doctors certified by a particular company were bums we would soon know they were useless. The other certifying bodies would be happy to tell us.

Who polices the current regulators?

That's funny. I think republicans believe more in personal liberty than democrats. Not in D.C (none of them care about stuff like that). But just in people I encounter everyday. Maybe I'll start a thread on that.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:02 PM
 
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So what you are saying is government regualtion and inspections don't work. Otherwise people would not be able to get away with this type of stuff.
No human construct works with 100% reliability. You can change the odds, though. I like having rules for unlocked fire exits and enough lifeboats and who gets to fix the jet engine I'm entrusting my life to.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:04 PM
 
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We should eliminate the publik school systems. That would solve a lot of our problems.
Priceless.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:08 PM
 
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A simple prosecution for criminal injury or civil case for accidental injury is the remedy. Not a massive bureaucracy and endless rules and regulations.
Some of us think that a regulation for the number of lifeboats per passenger beats death by drowning, even if our dependents get to sue the cruise line.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It's interesting how people become so angry and just attack any new idea they encounter. Instead of trying to learn more about those ideas, they just immediately go into attack mode. Then, those same people want to demand universal health care, despite not recognizing the flaws in the system that make universal health care unaffordable in the current system. If we had licensing reforms in the medical field then universal healthcare might indeed be affordable.

I will never understand why people are okay with the fact that people are okay with a doctor's visit to treat the common cold costing upwards of $100. When someone shows up with obvious cold symptoms, it would make sense to just sell them the cold medicine directly from the pharmacy. Instead, we have to go see a middle man to write the prescription and pocket a check while our misery is pro-longed.
Just what kind of a prescription do you want for a cold? Virtually all the medication you need to take care of a cold is available at your local Safeway, in the "Health and Beauty" section. You don't even need to go to a pharmacy. In fact, for the most part, you don't need anything for a cold, except perhaps a little Tylenol or Ibuprofen for the aches. The rest of that garbage is just "snake oil".
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I think some of the responses are very chidish, not you in particular.

The poster offers a, thinking outside the box, solution to our ever diminishing supply of doctors.

I would rather people offer something of value than just casting silly remarks, as usually happens here at CD.

I do have a question for you. Do you pay the who takes care of the brakes on your car as much as you do your doctor? They both have your life in their hands. Do you only use a cerified mechanic?
Who says there is an "ever diminishing" supply of doctors? I just read an article that stated the supply of pediatricians has increased I believe 35% while the supply of kids has only increased 9% in the same period. I probably could never find that article again, so you'll have to take my word for it. There is no shortage of applicants to medical school or PA school. The NP programs are usually full.

The "who" that takes the care of my car brakes is usually my DH. He knows what he's doing, and he knows when he's in over his head.

This "solution" to a non-problem is way over the top. If you want to go back to the days of snake oil medicine, be my guest. There are plenty of unlicensed "healers" out there right now.
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Old 02-05-2011, 06:58 PM
 
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The problem is that, when professional/private organizations self-regulate, they tend to do it in the interests of of themselves and their members rather than the public.
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