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Old 02-08-2011, 01:07 PM
 
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Explains it very well. But, go ahead. Keep buying into the tinfoilhattery that Nazism is "right winged". LMAOROFL
I posted direct factual links to prove those who think anarchy is far right and fascism far left are wrong.
What you posted is nothing more than an opinion piece that someone made on youtube. I could make a video saying marxism, communism, nazism, fascism and socialism are all "far right" That doesn't mean it's the truth.
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I posted direct factual links to prove those who thing anarchy is far right and fascism far left are wrong.
What you posted is nothing more than an opinion piece that someone made on youtube. I could make a video saying marxism, communism, nazism, fascism and socialism are all "far right" That doesn't mean it's the truth.
The person making the video indicates that people who argue as such cannot clearly define their terms, and allow for exceptions in the logic. How do the tinfoilhatter "Nazi is RW" crew explain why Nazis were not in favor of civil liberties, a laissez-faire free market, or gun rights for citizens? How do they explain when they use anti-gay rhetoric as a criteria, but when the Soviets are guilty of the same, they're not considered RW? They can't. The video states that the arguers of this Nazi is RW nonsense cannot clearly define the terms and it amounts to confusion. No amount of wiki subjective opinions changes that.
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:10 PM
 
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Big time fail again

"Anarchism is often considered to be a radical left-wing ideology"

Anarchism - Wikipedia
I guess there can be SOME anarchists that identify as left wing, but it was born from the right, just like Facism was born from the left.

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[LEFT]Many people will try to tell you that right wings can't be anarchist.... but they are ignorant in political matters..... most people who think that beleive that all right wings are conservitives, but thats not true..... Right wing anarchists are just as much of anarchist than left wing if not more, because they want less government controle


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Old 02-08-2011, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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do any of you agree with Kristol's assessment of Glenn Beck?
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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do any of you agree with Kristol's assessment of Glenn Beck?
Not now. The Nazi-is-RW tinfoilhatters wanna make their case.
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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The person making the video indicates that people who argue as such cannot clearly define their terms, and allow for exceptions in the logic. How do the tinfoilhatter "Nazi is RW" crew explain why Nazis were not in favor of civil liberties, a laissez-faire free market, or gun rights for citizens? How do they explain when they use anti-gay rhetoric as a criteria, but when the Soviets are guilty of the same, they're not considered RW? They can't. The video states that the arguers of this Nazi is RW nonsense cannot clearly define the terms and it amounts to confusion. No amount of wiki subjective opinions changes that.
Also ask them why the Nazi's hated Capitalism and the Jews. Also ask them why Hitler partnered with the Communists for a while. Then ask them why Himmler partnered with the Muslims and brought them into his army.
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:14 PM
 
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I guess there can be SOME anarchists that identify as left wing, but it was born from the right, just like Facism was born from the left.

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Fascism was born on the right and stayed on the right. Read up on some Mussolini.
Otherwise you are fairly correct anarchy could in theory be considered left or right or no label at all because it's no government, though if a label had to be placed on it, most sources put it at the far left.
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:15 PM
 
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do any of you agree with Kristol's assessment of Glenn Beck?
I don't. Kristol doesn't seem to want to take a look at past history or any facts. He seems perfectly fine taking the other party's word for it.
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:16 PM
 
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Fascism was born on the right and stayed on the right. Read up on some Mussolini.
Otherwise you are fairly correct anarchy could in theory be considered left or right or no label at all because it's no government, though if a label had to be placed on it, most sources put it at the far left.
This is getting too far off topic. There have been posts made already with Mussolini's own words about Facism. He even said it was born from left wing ideology with SOME right wing ideology mixed in. Facism would not exist without Communism.
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Old 02-08-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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This is getting too far off topic. There have been posts made already with Mussolini's own words about Facism. He even said it was born from left wing ideology with SOME right wing ideology mixed in. Facism would not exist without Communism.
I've proven facts with links to prove my point. We'll get back on topic and I'd suggest checking out the thread discussing hitler and political position, the "hitler was a leftist" crowd isn't doing too good,..
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