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Old 02-08-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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Take one: Repeal. Take two: Defund.
That’s the GOP strategy for attacking President Barack Obama’s health care law.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia Tuesday predicted that the House, as part of a government-wide spending bill, will approve an amendment next week banning use of the bill’s funds for implementing the landmark 2010 health care law.
The spending bill, which is needed to fund the government for the remaining seven months of the fiscal year, is being drafted by the House Appropriations Committee and is not expected to include the health-law funding ban at first.


GOP’s Plan for Health Care Law: No Money - Washington Wire - WSJ
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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Take one: Repeal. Take two: Defund.
That’s the GOP strategy for attacking President Barack Obama’s health care law.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia Tuesday predicted that the House, as part of a government-wide spending bill, will approve an amendment next week banning use of the bill’s funds for implementing the landmark 2010 health care law.
The spending bill, which is needed to fund the government for the remaining seven months of the fiscal year, is being drafted by the House Appropriations Committee and is not expected to include the health-law funding ban at first.


GOP’s Plan for Health Care Law: No Money - Washington Wire - WSJ
Hope so, end it and start again.
Hope they stick to their guns.
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:16 PM
 
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I don't think this is a big surprise to anyone. If they do that, they'll force a government shutdown over it, because Obama won't sign it. That might sound great, but it didn't work too well for Newt when he did the same thing in 1995. According to the poll I attached below from January, only 25% of the population now support repeal. I think the R's are playing a risky game. The Dems have offered to work with them on making bipartisan changes. If they refuse to do that and they push for defunding instead (especially since their biggest argument is that the mandate is unconstitutional, and the SC has yet to decide that), they could wind up looking like children threatening to take their toys and go home. I don't think the public is in the mood for that.

Poll: Support for Health Care Repeal Drops | The Rundown News Blog | PBS NewsHour | PBS
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:22 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Take one: Repeal. Take two: Defund.
That’s the GOP strategy for attacking President Barack Obama’s health care law.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia Tuesday predicted that the House, as part of a government-wide spending bill, will approve an amendment next week banning use of the bill’s funds for implementing the landmark 2010 health care law.
The spending bill, which is needed to fund the government for the remaining seven months of the fiscal year, is being drafted by the House Appropriations Committee and is not expected to include the health-law funding ban at first.


GOP’s Plan for Health Care Law: No Money - Washington Wire - WSJ
Well, as of a week ago, there is no law, and the Obama administration has not yet filed an appeal, nor a stay. So, it is at present, dead.

However, Congress should still work on repeal efforts, and also defund this vile piece of unconstitutional legislation.
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:28 PM
 
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I don't think this is a big surprise to anyone. If they do that, they'll force a government shutdown over it, because Obama won't sign it. That might sound great, but it didn't work too well for Newt when he did the same thing in 1995. According to the poll I attached below from January, only 25% of the population now support repeal. I think the R's are playing a risky game. The Dems have offered to work with them on making bipartisan changes. If they refuse to do that and they push for defunding instead (especially since their biggest argument is that the mandate is unconstitutional, and the SC has yet to decide that), they could wind up looking like children threatening to take their toys and go home. I don't think the public is in the mood for that.

Poll: Support for Health Care Repeal Drops | The Rundown News Blog | PBS NewsHour | PBS

Well, techincally that would be Obama and Senate Democrats forcing a government shut down for refusing to make necessary spending cuts.
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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Well, techincally that would be Obama and Senate Democrats forcing a government shut down for refusing to make necessary spending cuts.
You're playing with words there--it all depends on how the general public decides to view it, and who makes the best argument in the press.
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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Well, as of a week ago, there is no law, and the Obama administration has not yet filed an appeal, nor a stay. So, it is at present, dead.

However, Congress should still work on repeal efforts, and also defund this vile piece of unconstitutional legislation.
Do you understand how an appeal works? The Florida decision was only a week ago--the administration hasn't filed an appeal yet, but you can be sure that they will be very soon. Implementation isn't going to be delayed if an appeal is pending, so until a higher court takes some kind of action, it still stands.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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You're playing with words there--it all depends on how the general public decides to view it, and who makes the best argument in the press.
Actually, it will depend on the mainstream media telling the public what they should think or feel. Remember, it is not the public telling the media what to broadcast, it is the media broadcasting what they want the public to know or think.

Which is why all the media polls are a joke. Nobody in the media is interested in what the public wants or thinks. The media establishes the National Agenda, not the public.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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According to the poll I attached below from January, only 25% of the population now support repeal. I think the R's are playing a risky game.

That is not what the poll indicates, PBS is misleading you. From PBS:

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Only 25 percent of people polled now support repealing the health care law according to....
The poll does not say that, from the article they are citing it says:

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As for repeal, only about one in four say they want to do away with the law completely.
The poll also indicates:

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The poll finds that 40 percent of those surveyed said they support the law, while 41 percent oppose it. Just after the November congressional elections, opposition stood at 47 percent and support was 38 percent.
AND probably most importantly:

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Fewer than one in five say it should be left as it is.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:28 PM
 
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The more I look at it the more it angers me, this is poor/bias/misleading reporting at it's worse. Let's consider the full paragraph:

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Only 25 percent of people polled now support repealing the health care law, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll out Monday, compared to 46 percent on Jan. 7, one day before Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot in a violent attack in Tuscon, Ariz.
The poll they citing for the 25 percent number WAS taken January 5th, there is no reference to a 46 percent for any question regarding repeal on that date.

http://www.ap-gfkpoll.com/pdf/AP-GfK%20Poll%20011411.pdf (broken link)

Journalism Fail!
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