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Given your attitude I'm surprised you don't just think they should be executed and ground up into puppy chow.
Most kids with bad attitudes are a reflection of crappy parents. Note that I said most, not all.
The problem is with divorce rates, and single parent households skyrocketing as well as a dramatic increase in the number of dual income households, kids take the back burner.
I can think of very few model students that had parents that were apathetic. On the other hand I can think of almost every pain in the neck student that I had and they had parents that didn't care, or they felt that if their kid was a problem, it was automatically the teachers fault.
Hey, who cares about the source of thier problems. Granted, it is probably a poor home life and poor parenting.
Regardless, one child does not have the right to be disruptive and jeopardize the educational process for those who are trying to learn. It is obtrusive and selfish to suggest that a system should tolerate poor behavior and thus drag down the rest of the students to their level of misery.
Of course they should be thrown out of school. School is a key to one's future and if one is not interested in having a future, so be it. Life is full of choices and if one chooses to ignore all the benefits of a free public education, then that is thier choice.
Spending billions on a losing game is a very poor investment. What should be done with these thugs? Probably the best solution would be to enroll them in a pre-military boot camp, upon "graduation" they would spend several years in the military. Leaving them in the public schools will result in thier certain failure and jeopardize others as well. Get them out.
The Catholic Schools don't put up with or tolerate the crap that go's on in Public Schools, they nip it in the bud, immediately. They rule with a iron fist. They are stricter also.
If i remember correctly Catholic class sizes are much smaller, the kids that do attend Catholic Schools, i believe do, with wanting to do their very best.
Not all but most of the children who attend Catholic Schools, have both Paretns around also, does that mean antyhing, i don't know you tell me. The parents are involved with their children's class and homework. Today's Parents who have children attend Pulbic Schools, feel that the school is the parents, and the one that teaches right and wrong, and blames the School for everything. Catholic School is much more strict, and usually has zero tolerance for nonsense.
I guess you didn't read all the previous posts. I never had less than 30 kids in my classes.
Let me tell you about catholic school teachers, they get paid almost nothing and their kids don't get a break on tuition.
Emphasis on education and not catering to the lowest common denominator would be a good start.
When I went to school, both parochial and public schools were equal.
We had A, B, C divisions; they had it in the public schools, too.
I taught in the public school system. Parents whined about their poor babies having to study and compete. They demanded dumbing down of curriculum to meet the lowest common denominator, not pushing all students to excel. Excellence in sports is not equal to excellence in education.
Often. Hardly. Some schools may, but someone's always paying the bill. Either the cost is being borne by other tuition paying families or someone is footing the bill. You can't generalize about all catholic schools. Each diocese provides different services and has different quality schools.
It's silly to think that you can use a cookie cutter to describe the schools.
I would suggest you heed your own advice. Some Catholic schools DO give a break on tuition to teachers.
When I went to school the Catholic schools were far above the public. (My 3 year older uncle lived with us and went to public schools while I attended Catholic schools.
Today things have changed. My grandkids all are/were in Advanced Placement classes. The parents of these kids are the reason these programs are in the school. They demand more from the students and the school. It takes 2 to tango as they say.
Schools with Advanced Placement curriculum are doing much better than those that don't. This not to say that the other kids in the school are doing better or worse.
It probably comes down to the parents and what they really want.
I wouldn't kick them out early..move them into vocational programs.
They may not have the ability for calculus but just might make an excellent car mechanic. Only they don't get a chance because "everyone is college material".
IMO, the bad ones should be seperated from the good ones.
I went to catholic school from grades K-8. Ugh. I feel so bad my parents' money was wasted. Would rather had some extra useful classes than learning about fairytales and being told lies and trained to be a bigot.
Awful experience. Private NON RELIGION school is the way to go, IMO.
I don't think it was the school.
I went to Catholic schools as was NEVER taught to be a bigot.
What the heck are you talking about.
Are you saying that private schooling is free? There are always costs borne by someone.
For everything in life.
The rest of your post makes no sense.
The point was that you argued against my statement that not all kids in Catholic Schools come from higher income families nor are the highest achievers. Charitable scholarships are available. You took it to the extreme and diverted the discussion. You also ridicule other posters for giving personal anecdotes. Yet you, yourself, frequently rely on personal anecdotes. You seem to feel that only you, yourself, are allowed to use the word "always" or back up an argument with personal anecdotes.
But, I really don't think I needed to spell this out for you.
Why the kids “demoted” to vocational schools should be burdened with the disruptive and obnoxious. Throw the clowns out and let them become criminals to survive.
FWIW I studied both a vocational and an academic program in High School. I was a skilled machinist, it takes continuous practice to remain sharp, but make more money and respect as a scientist. I do miss fabricating machines out of raw metal from hand drawn sketches.
"Regardless, one child does not have the right to be disruptive and jeopardize the educational process for those who are trying to learn. "
Exactly!!!
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