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They are no more "human" than the skin I slough off daily.
So the skin you slough off every day will, left under normal conditions, develop into a breathing, thinking, speaking, adult? Those are some skin cells you got there!
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They require a mother
So did you. Are you less human for it?
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to become human and then only when they can breathe.
So "breathing" is your definition of "human?" Seems rather arbitrary to me. Why not "blue eyes" mean you're human? Makes as much sense as "breathing at the moment." If I hold my breath till I've turned blue, have I become inhuman -- or just a silly human?
no, embryos are not human. they are a mass of cells with the potential of becoming human. but a human is something that posseses sapience and a soul. without these two things an organism cannot be "murdered". an embryo is "alive" in the same way a plant or virus is alive. but without sapience and a soul its destruction cannot constitute murder
If that is your definition of human, then I certainly hope you are a strict vegetarian. Otherwise you are murdering at every meal. Animals possess sapience -- albeit at varying levels of complexity.
One you start talking "soul"...well, then you are talking metaphysics and religion, not medicine and science.
no, embryos are not human. they are a mass of cells with the potential of becoming human. but a human is something that posseses sapience and a soul. without these two things an organism cannot be "murdered". an embryo is "alive" in the same way a plant or virus is alive. but without sapience and a soul its destruction cannot constitute murder
If that is your definition of human, then I certainly hope you are a strict vegetarian. Otherwise you are murdering at every meal. Animals possess sapience -- albeit at varying levels of complexity.
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animals do not posses human conciousness. it is the difference between intelligent creature and beast. and the killing of which is the difference between hunting and murder.
killing a deer is not murder. it doesnt have true sapiance. an embryo is no more capable of being murdered than a snail
animals do not posses human conciousness. it is the difference between intelligent creature and beast. and the killing of which is the difference between hunting and murder.
killing a deer is not murder. it doesnt have true sapiance. an embryo is no more capable of being murdered than a snail
Next the RTL'ers will be saying that a woman who refuses the sexual advances of a man is a murderer. After all, left to take it's natural course, one thing leads to another, and if she AGREED, they might have a baby.
If we can't use them to make advances in medicine and cure diseases - what should then be done with the currently 500,000 frozen embryos and growing every month? Just a question.
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If we can't use them to make advances in medicine and cure diseases - what should then be done with the currently 500,000 frozen embryos and growing every month? Just a question.
Keep them frozen and hope regime change brings someone other than a tunnel-visioned ideologue?
I respectfully disagree. The ends do not justify the means in this case.
I'm all for curing cancer, AIDs, Alzheimers, etc., but if science discovered next week that they could cure any one of those by lining up all left-handed seniors and grinding them up, I wouldn't support it. Trying to help people does not justify killing another.
Am I to understand that you are against capital punishment as well?
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