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Old 02-10-2011, 03:18 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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I,m not over thinking anything. It's just funny seeing people claim to be something that they are not.

Claiming to be Irish or something else is something a lot of people do. I suppose it's trendy.

It's OK...american is a perfectly fine identity to have. You don,t have to go back to your ancestry to be an interesting person.
However the only TRUE Americans are the American Indian everybody else came here by boat whether by their own choice or notWe are a country of immigrants which makes us a unique melting pot? Trendy That's implies its something new You really don't understand America as a whole and me as an individual at all!!
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:22 PM
 
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However the only TRUE Americans are the American Indian everybody else came here by boat whether by their own choice or notWe are a country of immigrants which makes us a unique melting pot? Trendy That's implies its something new You really don't understand America as a whole and me as an individual at all!!

Really? I never came here by boat or any other means of transportation. I was born here and am a TRUE American of Irish decent.
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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Why do the Irish have to go around announcing their ethnicity to everyone? I don't need to hear about it. They're shoving it down our throats. And why do they have to have a parade? They're such deviants. I'm really tired of all of this political correctness. They tell the rest of us that we need to be "tolerant" of them, but then they won't tolerate my anti-Irish views. They must be mentally ill.

(all sarcasm)

Do you have this confused with another gay thread?
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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its not offenseive...

remember st paddy's day is coming






what's the difference between an Irish wedding , and an Irish wake????

Spoiler
one less drunk
Haha! Cute.
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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I,m not over thinking anything. It's just funny seeing people claim to be something that they are not.

Claiming to be Irish or something else is something a lot of people do. I suppose it's trendy.

It's OK...american is a perfectly fine identity to have. You don,t have to go back to your ancestry to be an interesting person.
What makes you think people do it to be interesting to others? Many go along identifying themselves as they choose and never mention it until asked. On those occasions, it usually doesn't generate that much interest or discussion to make it worth the effort if that was the reason.

Most people in the US are descendants of immigrants. When people came to the US, they brought along their cultural norms and practices. Those shaped the lives and values or future generations leading up to the present. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone idenitfying that part of what makes them who they are is the influence that their ancestors brought from their country of origin.

I don't think most of the "Irish" that speak with their northeastern accents or southern accents really think they're convincing anyone that they are on vacation from Dublin. Most people that hear that someone is Irish or Italian or whatever it may be seem to understand and get the point that the person is making reference to their heritage or culture without the need for further clarification.

Would it resolve the issue if every time the subject came up, they clarified that they are not citizens of Ireland, but that they are of Irish descent?

How should they handle it if they're on vacation in the US, are of Mexican descent, but have recently moved to Ireland and became a citizen because they married and Irish person? Can they no longer say they're Mexican even though they lived there their whole lives? Are they more Irish now that they have a piece of paper than a guy who's an American citizen but their grandparents came from Ireland?
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:56 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Really? I never came here by boat or any other means of transportation. I was born here and am a TRUE American of Irish decent.
I believe as you do but the Canadian guy had his colon in a knot so I was trying to make a point
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Old 02-10-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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I am half Irish and half drunk and I am not offended.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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BREAKING NEWS!

The Irish panic in the wake of floods!

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Old 02-10-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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However the only TRUE Americans are the American Indian everybody else came here by boat whether by their own choice or notWe are a country of immigrants which makes us a unique melting pot? Trendy That's implies its something new You really don't understand America as a whole and me as an individual at all!!
My country is a country of immigrant too. So?
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Old 02-10-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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What makes you think people do it to be interesting to others? Many go along identifying themselves as they choose and never mention it until asked. On those occasions, it usually doesn't generate that much interest or discussion to make it worth the effort if that was the reason.

Most people in the US are descendants of immigrants. When people came to the US, they brought along their cultural norms and practices. Those shaped the lives and values or future generations leading up to the present. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone idenitfying that part of what makes them who they are is the influence that their ancestors brought from their country of origin.

I don't think most of the "Irish" that speak with their northeastern accents or southern accents really think they're convincing anyone that they are on vacation from Dublin. Most people that hear that someone is Irish or Italian or whatever it may be seem to understand and get the point that the person is making reference to their heritage or culture without the need for further clarification.

Would it resolve the issue if every time the subject came up, they clarified that they are not citizens of Ireland, but that they are of Irish descent?

How should they handle it if they're on vacation in the US, are of Mexican descent, but have recently moved to Ireland and became a citizen because they married and Irish person? Can they no longer say they're Mexican even though they lived there their whole lives? Are they more Irish now that they have a piece of paper than a guy who's an American citizen but their grandparents came from Ireland?
You make it sound like the US is the only 'country of immigrant'.

The way americans identify to a cocktail of heritage in attempt to look cosmopolitan or something (when north america is just as inbred as anywhere else) is really uniquely american.

Anytime I visit the US, I have these long boring discussions about heritage as soon as someone hears my accent.

"Dude, you're french! I'm totally Welsh! ohmygawd!"

I remember an american tourist taking a chair at our table in Montreal and saying "it's OK, I'm scottish, you're french...the auld alliance!"

I mean wow, this guy not only took us on another continent but back to the middle ages!

Do you actually come to believe that BS that you're someone else when you say it often enough?
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