Mubarak steps down (goverment, religion, work, Bush)
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Aside from a broad fear, you really have no evidence in support of this statement. It would be like assuming that every election we have the radical Christians will co-opt the entire process. They try every time, but have yet to bring our nation to their will. Trust the Egyptians.
I really would like to, but opinion polls show that most Egyptians are very much pro-sharia law (chopping off hands/heads, segregation of women, etc). I don't think that bodes well.
Like I said to LordBalfor, I DO hope that he is correct. I think those people that stood up for their beliefs are admirable.
However, only time will tell.
I hope that I am WRONG, for what it is worth. I'll be happy as hell to celebrate a free Egypt.
There is everything wrong with it....and THAT is why the USA is not trusted.
To espouse freedom and democracy requires you support freedom and democracy.
The USA does not do that.
Hence the reason the USA is in it's current position.
You have a neocon view that we should control the world and determine their best interests. There's absolutely nothing wrong with LordBalfor's position. It is the wisest, lest we dive into every country with guns and force our will on their political process.
Far wiser to work with who they have, and when the opportunity arises for transition to Democracy, we support it.
There is everything wrong with it....and THAT is why the USA is not trusted.
To espouse freedom and democracy requires you support freedom and democracy.
The USA does not do that.
Hence the reason the USA is in it's current position.
SURE we do. We have done so many many times in the past - but it's not OUR responsibility to MAKE it happen. It's up to the people in those countries to MAKE it happen.
Has EVERYONE we've supported been pro-democracy?
Of course not - often there WAS no pro-democracy potential leader (at least no one who had a REAL chance to making it happen - sometimes the people of a country are just not ready to take that step yet).
Have their been times when in fact we've supported dictators who were in reality ANTI-democratic over a leader who was truly democratic?
To our shame - yes, we have.
Is the the USUAL case?
No, it isn't.
In the case of Iran we stood by a brutal dictator wayyyyyy too long - and the result was a violently anti-American and anti-Democratic regime.
In the case of Egypt, we're doing the right thing. Stood by the guy until it became very clear his people no longer wanted him - then we cut the strings and (likely) helped pressure him out of the way so the people can have their way.
You have a neocon view that we should control the world and determine their best interests. There's absolutely nothing wrong with LordBalfor's position. It is the wisest, lest we dive into every country with guns and force our will on their political process.
Far wiser to work with who they have, and when the opportunity arises for transition to Democracy, we support it.
LOL..are you unable to comprehend anything if it is not spoonfed to you by your leaders?
Here is a little hint.
Go BACK and read the very first threads about the Egypt protests....
Like the one of very first threads on the topic started by me...
I really would like to, but opinion polls show that most Egyptians are very much pro-sharia law (chopping off hands/heads, segregation of women, etc). I don't think that bodes well.
Like I said to LordBalfor, I DO hope that he is correct. I think those people that stood up for their beliefs are admirable.
However, only time will tell.
I hope that I am WRONG, for what it is worth. I'll be happy as hell to celebrate a free Egypt.
Let's say, hypothetically, that sharia law takes root. Egypt still has a very large, very technology savvy, very aspirational young generation that is well connected into the global culture. If this transition brings the economic opportunities to Egypt that they are hoping, I would say it's only a matter of time before religion fades and global pragmatism emerges.
But, like you, I don't know. Only time will tell. That region is rapidly modernizing, though.
I really would like to, but opinion polls show that most Egyptians are very much pro-sharia law (chopping off hands/heads, segregation of women, etc). I don't think that bodes well.
Like I said to LordBalfor, I DO hope that he is correct. I think those people that stood up for their beliefs are admirable.
However, only time will tell.
I hope that I am WRONG, for what it is worth. I'll be happy as hell to celebrate a free Egypt.
LOL..are you unable to comprehend anything if it is not spoonfed to you by your leaders?
Here is a little hint.
Go BACK and read the very first threads about the Egypt protests....
Like the one of very first threads on the topic started by me...
God leftists can be dim.
Why are you being so rude to me? I'm trying to have a mature conversation and you keep coming with these personal and partisan attacks. I'm an independent. I don't buy into this notion that leftists or rightists are entirely right or wrong. I also don't understand why I would use threads on a forum filled with a very unlearned population with regard to global politics as a barometer.
The reality remains that Obama supported this revolution from the very beginning and showed wisdom in not picking sides, but rather in supporting the people and letting them determine who their next leadership would be.
I really would like to, but opinion polls show that most Egyptians are very much pro-sharia law (chopping off hands/heads, segregation of women, etc). I don't think that bodes well.
Like I said to LordBalfor, I DO hope that he is correct. I think those people that stood up for their beliefs are admirable.
However, only time will tell.
I hope that I am WRONG, for what it is worth. I'll be happy as hell to celebrate a free Egypt.
Can you please provide reputable sources for the emboldened , quoted above?
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