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Old 02-13-2011, 04:57 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I was trying to be civil and gain a better understanding. You make it sound like I'm trying to control your actions. Militant much?

Let me get right on those reparations for you. I can't help but get the impression that you dislike white people in general.[/quote]

why do you assume that? some white conservative types always feel like things should be done their way or the highway. The guy certainly has a right to say what he thinks he should be called if you all insist him on calling him something other than plain ol "American".
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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why do you assume that? some white conservative types always feel like things should be done their way or the highway. The guy certainly has a right to say what he thinks he should be called if you all insist him on calling him something other than plain ol "American".
It's all about the tone. I was simply trying to gain insight on a subject and he came out at me like I just fell out of a KKK rally.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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I was trying to be civil and gain a better understanding. You make it sound like I'm trying to control your actions. Militant much?

"Let me get right on those reparations for you. I can't help but get the impression that you dislike white people in general."[/quote]

You are trying to control my actions. Why even bother to tell me about what white Americans call themselves unless you want me to get the idea that as a black man, i should do the same. That's certainly the implication here. And i'm just telling you, i reject it out of hand. What you as an American of German descent chooses to do has no bearing on what i choose to do.

And no, i'm not being militant in this case (though i will be when i need to be), i'm being vigilant....against people who through their own supremacy complex feels the need to tell me what to call myself.

Reparations? This might be the most hilarious thing you've said. If by some accident you happen to have anything worth having, it's surely not something i would want. I don't need reparations....nothing about me is in disrepair. If i want it, i can get it myself, just like i always have. Reparations! Some folks...i swear.

Lastly, i have no axe to grind with individual whites, so no, i don't dislike white people in general. If i did, i'd just say so. I wouldn't be surreptitious about it.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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And no, i'm not being militant in this case (though i will be when i need to be), i'm being vigilant....against people who through their own supremacy complex feels the need to tell me what to call myself.
You assume I have a "supremacy complex". What did I write that gave you that impression? From the sound of your rebuttal to my posts, you give me the impression that you have an "inferiority complex". At bare minimal you sound like you have a chip on your shoulder and an axe to grind.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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You assume I have a "supremacy complex". What did I write that gave you that impression? From the sound of your rebuttal to my posts, you give me the impression that you have an "inferiority complex". At bare minimal you sound like you have a chip on your shoulder and an axe to grind.
Then why tell me about what you as an American of German extraction chooses to call yourself? What was the point you were making?

And again, if i had an axe to grind, i'd just say so. This is only a forum...it's not like you could reach through my computer and punch me for disagreeing.

Chip? Yea, i don't like people trying to tell me what to do when they have no authority to do so.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I have not heard that the tiny Greek population in Egypt had an issue with the term African American, nor would I refer to them as colonists. Please enlighten us.
Clue Number 1: Hannibal

Clue Number 2: Carthage

Clue Number 3: Google clue number 1 and clue number 2
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Then why tell me about what you as an American of German extraction chooses to call yourself? What was the point you were making?

Chip? Yea, i don't like people trying to tell me what to do when they have no authority to do so.
I was simply stating what I do. I was not trying to tell you what to do. You can do anything you want. I was just giving an example.

You just seem like a real angry person. I apologize if I offended you somehow.

Moving on......
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:38 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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I was trying to be civil and gain a better understanding. You make it sound like I'm trying to control your actions. Militant much?


Let me get right on those reparations for you. I can't help but get the impression that you dislike white people in general.

Its comments like these that impede the flow of constructive and informative conversation. When other people give me an intelligent point of view from their perspective, I find it enlightening.

Why is it necessary to resort to taunts simply because you are not personally prive to the other person's view and/or life experience?
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Its comments like these that impede the flow of constructive and informative conversation. When other people give me an intelligent point of view from their perspective, I find it enlightening.

Why is it necessary to resort to taunts simply because you are not personally prive to the other person's view and/or life experience?
It was the way he came across in his post to me. I found it quite agressive and rude. He found my post to be rude as well. These are the downsides to not being able to talk to the person, in person. We're limited to faceless words.

All apologies. Moving on.
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Old 02-13-2011, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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That seems about right. African-American (or, if you prefer, Blacks) in this country have a different history, experience, and background in this country than that of African immigrants. It's no different than if I went to Vietnam where I was born and said, "I'm Vietnamese!!" I may be because of my ethnic composition but other than that...not really.
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