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Old 02-13-2011, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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They don't mention King or Malcom, that I saw. And they say the communists were behind the civil rights movement. They also say white people were involved. And they say communists were racists and had "duped" the American public. You might disagree but there is nothing there to suggest that the John Birch people are racist or were against the progress of black folk.

The philosophy of the John Birch people at the time was that blacks were making progress in the U.S. without help from the feds. There was good reason to believe that since it was true. And, given time, attitudes by whites would continue to change for the better.

Amazingly, attitudes by white folk towards blacks has changed. Maybe the John Birch people were right.
dear gawd! a "John Bircher." LOL
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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You need to read the definition they use for civil rights.

Again nothing they say could be considered wrong or racist. They were campaigning for states to abolish Jim Crow laws. The reasoning: The feds were overstepping their Constitutional authority. And any "right" granted by the feds is not a right. I agree. If the feds can grant "rights" then they can also take away those "rights". The feds should protect our God-given rights.

I know plenty about the John Birch Society. I was never a memeber but I subscribed to their magazine for plenty of years. Nothing they support could be considered racist or anti-minority or anything else the critics throw at them. And very little of what I have heard Beck say would be comparable to the John Birch folk.

It's pretty funny seeing the libs complaining the JBS is racist when anytime we see racist comments on CD they come from liberals.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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Please post your proof where Beck has been against civil rights or racist in any way. Specific examples accompanied by links please.

The left must be very afraid of the information being put out on Beck's shows if going to these insane lengths to smear his name and discredit him.

Is Soros paying you guys well?
They can't. They can't post anything that says the John Birch Society is racist either.

It's the same old tired liberal lie. If you don't think exactly as we say you should then you must be a racist. It's very 1984ish.

Funny thing is, no one believes anymore except the hard core libs. Look at the last election. Republicans elected more minorities and women to office than the Democrats did. But they still say Repubs are racist. LOLs.

If liberals were as smart as they say they are one would think they could come up with some legimate criticisms of people they disagree with. But they always go back to yelling racism. It's a shame. When there really is racism then people don't believe it. And it's not remedied.

Liberals are the boy that cried wolf.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Columbus
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dear gawd! a "John Bircher." LOL

Yawn. As I said, I have never been a member of the John Birch Society.
I explained the reasoning they used. They supported the abolishment of Jim Crow laws.

What's wrong with that? How does that make them racist?

It doesn't.

Class dismissed.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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And liberals have a paranoid obsession with capatilism. Even though capitalists don't kill people.

I always got the impression the JBS were more anti-United Nations than communist.

And isn't it good to be a little paranoid about communism? Communists are responsible for more than a 100 million deaths. It's nothing anyone should be for or supporting.

And if you think the JBS is paranoid about Communism you should talk to people that live(d) in communist countries. I lived in Cuba for a time. There is good reason to be paranoid about communism.
And how many deaths have been caused by we capitalists?

I'd heard that many of the Cuban exiles were strong right-wingers, even extreme right wingers.....(some even trained CIA assassins like Felix Rodriguez, Luis Pasoda, etc).....so I guess it shouldn't surprise me that they would like the John Birch Society so much.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:44 AM
 
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And liberals have a paranoid obsession with capatilism. Even though capitalists don't kill people.

I always got the impression the JBS were more anti-United Nations than communist.

And isn't it good to be a little paranoid about communism? Communists are responsible for more than a 100 million deaths. It's nothing anyone should be for or supporting.

And if you think the JBS is paranoid about Communism you should talk to people that live(d) in communist countries. I lived in Cuba for a time. There is good reason to be paranoid about communism.

All the communists are in bed with the left, the lovers of people like Che and Mao who killed 70 million people.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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And how many deaths have been caused by we capitalists?

I'd heard that many of the Cuban exiles were strong right-wingers, even extreme right wingers.....(some even trained CIA assassins like Felix Rodriguez, Luis Pasoda, etc).....so I guess it shouldn't surprise me that they would like the John Birch Society so much.
Where did you get the idea that Cubans like the John Birch Society?

I'm not Cuban. I just lived there. I helped Cubans sneak out of the country and get to the U.S. It was all quite fun. And dangerous. And I'm not a big fan of the JBS. Just tried to explain some misconeptions about them.

Being a CIA assasian makes one an extreme right-winger? LOLs.

From what I saw, most Cubans are anti-big government. Of course, that makes sense since it's the leftist big government in Cuba that has been torturing and killing them.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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Please post your proof where Beck has been against civil rights or racist in any way. Specific examples accompanied by links please.

The left must be very afraid of the information being put out on Beck's shows if going to these insane lengths to smear his name and discredit him.

Is Soros paying you guys well?
Nobody is afraid of Glenn Beck. How can you make the leap in faith that just because people discuss a certain individual that they are afraid of that person. We often talk about President Obama and clearly liberals are not afraid of Obama. It's just a silly logical flaw to assume that just because an individual is discussed that means that anyone feels afraid of that individual. Beck is annoying and sort of a circus sideshow, IMO.

I didn't see anybody calling Beck a racist......although many people who seem to be racists really like Beck, IMO.

Beck is like the JBS because of his endless conspiracy theories about communists, socialists, marxists, etc. The JBS is clearly well known for their "anti-communist" paranoia.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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Nobody is afraid of Glenn Beck. How can you make the leap in faith that just because people discuss a certain individual that they are afraid of that person. We often talk about President Obama and clearly liberals are not afraid of Obama. It's just a silly logical flaw to assume that just because an individual is discussed that means that anyone feels afraid of that individual. Beck is annoying and sort of a circus sideshow, IMO.

I didn't see anybody calling Beck a racist......although many people who seem to be racists really like Beck, IMO.

Beck is like the JBS because of his endless conspiracy theories about communists, socialists, marxists, etc. The JBS is clearly well known for their "anti-communist" paranoia.

Communist conspiracy theories? Read hussein obama's books where he spent his live associating with communists, socialists, marxists.
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Old 02-13-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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Nobody is afraid of Glenn Beck. How can you make the leap in faith that just because people discuss a certain individual that they are afraid of that person. We often talk about President Obama and clearly liberals are not afraid of Obama. It's just a silly logical flaw to assume that just because an individual is discussed that means that anyone feels afraid of that individual. Beck is annoying and sort of a circus sideshow, IMO.

I didn't see anybody calling Beck a racist......although many people who seem to be racists really like Beck, IMO.

Beck is like the JBS because of his endless conspiracy theories about communists, socialists, marxists, etc. The JBS is clearly well known for their "anti-communist" paranoia.
When has Beck ever done anything for the JBS society? Links, I asked before and you don't back it up.

I mentioned the information put out by Beck, not Beck himself. If there was nothing to fear the left wouldn't spend so much time trying to discredit him. So why is that? Discredit the messenger and soil the message perhaps?

Why is the left constantly using the politics of personal destruction aginst Conservative talking heads instead of discussing the issues? Could it be that nothing Obama is doing in regards to his policies is worth defending?

Why is the left not going after the straw poll winner at CPAC who actually has ties to JBS but going after Beck instead and attempting to tie him falsely to JBS? Tell me why! Links!
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