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Stewling is a sin. The probelmj is thsoe who want it will pay nothig towards it themsleves. It was very evicent at the budget hearings during the present healthcare scoring. All democratic special inerest rejected paying any portition of the healthcare bill themselves. It got so bad that Nelson sold his vote for a guarnatee that it was except from the medicaid terms which he said would bankrupty his state.
I would love for some supporter of a singlepayer. to answer one question..because I would love a singlepayer...just how are you going to pay for it
even if we take the european costs (theirs is about 4k per person, as opposed to our 7k per person(and that is an average (becasue some people need more and some need less))...4k times 320 million (our population) is 1,280,000,000,000 that's 1.2 trillion dollars a year...that we cant afford....our current budget is over 1.8 trillion ON THE HOLE
so just how would you propose paying for it...and let's remember there are less than 110 million WORKING TAXPAYERS in this country.
I would wager a guess that, non of you would even consider the 'fair-tax'...bet most will say 'tax the rich'...guess what the you could tax the rich at 100% and you still couldnt pay for it
The total spent by the US government on health care at the moment -from taxes- is about 1,15 trillion. That is medicare, medicaid, VA, Indian health, etc. So unless you want to keep all those programs running seaparate to single payer, you are talking about finding 0,05 trillion, or about 50 billion.
Presumably the people who at the moment are paying the remaining 1,15 trillion would be happy to exchange that expense for one of 0,05 trillion.
life expectancy has NOTHING to due with health care (uhc or private)...it has to due with life style, exersie, type of work you do, etc
its not a health care isse...does health care help..sure...but its not THE FACTOR in the difference
Actually, in Public Health, life expectancy and infant mortalilty are considered the best indicators of how well a countrys health care system is performing. Medicine 101.
There are other indicators of course. DALYs (disability-adjusted life years), amendable mortality, maternal mortality during childbirth, etc. The intersting thing is that the USA end up scoring about the same on all of them.
Infant mortality and number of mothers dying in childbirth for instance. America is at pretty much the same place in the rankings.
Is there a different way of registering "mother dead/mother alive" as well?
Actually, in Public Health, life expectancy and infant mortalilty are considered the best indicators of how well a countrys health care system is performing. Medicine 101.
There are other indicators of course. DALYs (disability-adjusted life years), amendable mortality, maternal mortality during childbirth, etc. The intersting thing is that the USA end up scoring about the same on all of them.
Infant mortality and number of mothers dying in childbirth for instance. America is at pretty much the same place in the rankings.
Is there a different way of registering "mother dead/mother alive" as well?
Actually infant mortality and life expectancy are bad ways to measure healthcare as there are other factors than healthcare that affect life expectancy and different counties have different ways of calculating infant mortality data.
Universal health care is theft, slavery, robbery and even a threat to kill... whether you like it or not it is a sin to God's standards and it's also immoral to most people with different beliefs (except they think that if they let government do their dirty work it's all okay)
The total spent by the US government on health care at the moment -from taxes- is about 1,15 trillion. That is medicare, medicaid, VA, Indian health, etc. So unless you want to keep all those programs running seaparate to single payer, you are talking about finding 0,05 trillion, or about 50 billion.
Presumably the people who at the moment are paying the remaining 1,15 trillion would be happy to exchange that expense for one of 0,05 trillion.
Does that answer your question?
yes we ALREADY spend (governemt care) about 1.5 trillion...just to cover about 80-85 million people...dont you think that to cover the REST (about 220 million is going to cost about the same if not more (an yes we all know medicare is the most expensive because of its demographics (no other was to say it , than the elderly are more costly))
so no it would NOT be only 50 bill to cover those 220 million
medicare covers about 40-45 million
midicaid covers about 25-35 million
the va covers (and ONLY the service connected issues) about 2 million
and indian affairs covers less than 1 million
total about 67-85 million....our population is 320 million...you have a difference of more than 220 million there
There would be no such thing as expensive health care if it were universal...It is a win win scenario.
That is quite creative. So because it's universal, all those providers are going to cut their rates? And produce million dollar medical equipment for half price???? And price drugs at cut rates after spending a billion dollars to develop them????
Read more at Suite101: Maternal Mortality Declines Worldwide but Poorest Countries Lag Maternal Mortality Declines Worldwide but Poorest Countries Lag (http://www.suite101.com/content/maternal-mortality-declines-worldwide-but-poorest-countries-lag-a235142#ixzz1DyRVKycW - broken link)
I didn't say anything about infant mortality.
Pregnant women need care. And that's why in the USA any pregnant woman can get care FREE OF CHARGE.
I guess you missed this, or just ignored it, so I'll post it again...Accented in red.
Growth in U.S. Life Expectancy Continues to Fall Behind That of Other Countries
Obesity, Smoking, Traffic Fatalities and Homicide Are Not to Blame. Research Points to Defects in Our Healthcare System.
Hmmm.... you take a cheerleader for Obamacare and ask her what the problem is with US health care....then you are surprised at her conclusion?
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