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Old 02-16-2011, 09:56 AM
 
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If you say so...
Appreciate the photo of yourself. Thanks.

Read up on the history of electric cars and why they failed on the previous page.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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Well it's not for the federal government to decide in the first place but...
Lifitng restrictions on drilling permits and refinieres would accomplish this task and not contribute to the debt crisis.
Your argunent is seriously flawed.

What incentive would oil companies have to drill more? They make more money when oil is scarce.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:09 AM
 
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This is non-sense. Electricity does not generate out of thin here. It use oil, coal, and other method to general energy.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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We need to reinvest in nuclear power and we need to spend some serious money bringing the electric grid up to standard.
Nuclear power is VERY dirty. If you're looking at it from the same standpoint that you look at electric cars, you'd disagree. But, nuclear power is still VERY dirty.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:12 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Nuclear power is VERY dirty. If you're looking at it from the same standpoint that you look at electric cars, you'd disagree. But, nuclear power is still VERY dirty.
How so?
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:14 AM
 
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What incentive would oil companies have to drill more? They make more money when oil is scarce.
Not exactly. They make more money selling more oil. It needs to be priced in accordance with the market. If it's too high, people will buy less oil.

The price of a barrel of oil should be between $35 and $90 under normal circumstances.

Futures trading and OPEC often have a lot to do with oil prices also.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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This is non-sense. Electricity does not generate out of thin here. It use oil, coal, and other method to general energy.
it's called energy loss. the internal combustion engine has far more (something like 30% efficient) than a modern electric plant using any energy source.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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How so?
Back when I was a progressive (before I mentally matured), I read "The Party's Over", a peak oil book that explained the pitfalls of alternative energy sources. The author relayed how mining for uranium is extremely dirty and sometimes even puts oil to shame.

Like electric cars, people don't appreciate how dirty their "clean" fuel is.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:17 AM
 
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Electric vehicles still use oil, they just don't use petroleum for propulsion. They still have tires, they still have parts requiring lubrication, they still use plastics and other material either manufactured or comprised of oil.

I have no beef with those people and companies who whish to purchase and use them as long as they do it on their own dime and not through a subsidy that comes out of my pocket.

Government forced re-distribution of wealth is not social justice, it is theft.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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Not exactly. They make more money selling more oil. It needs to be priced in accordance with the market. If it's too high, people will buy less oil.

The price of a barrel of oil should be between $35 and $90 under normal circumstances.

Futures trading and OPEC often have a lot to do with oil prices also.
Hmmm

So are you saying that a price could be set independent of much oil is actually available?
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