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Old 02-16-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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excellent ad. republicans may not "want' women to have coat hanger abortions but that is what will happen if abortions become illegal.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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Yes I realize that...

My point is that conservatives claim to want less government control...except when it comes to abortion, etc.
Yup! They want OTHER people controlled, not them....that's their idea of "smaller' government.


As far as abortion..

Yes, people "should" do this....and we can all "want" other people to do something but, contrary to Repug thinking, Utopia, a perfect world, will never exist.

Repugs have never studied history or they would know that getting pregnant and abortions have been around since people were around....if the Repugs think they can change human nature they should:


Complain to whoever or whatever created humans about their vast imperfections.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:06 PM
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It's complete hyperbole to say Republicans want to force women to get abortions in some back alley just because they don't want TAXPAYER funding of abortions.
Let's not kid ourselves, Republicans have long been opposed to a woman's right to have an abortion regardless of who pays for it. Their opposition has absolutely nothing to do with taxes. That's just their latest spin.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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That is the problems with the picture painted by liberals. No one wants to see women subjected to horrible back alley abortions. However, we do want women and their sexual partners to be more responsible so that the unwanted children are never conceived to begin with.
And when the birth control fails?
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:11 PM
 
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Let's not kid ourselves, Republicans have long been opposed to a woman's right to have an abortion regardless of who pays for it. Their opposition has absolutely nothing to do with taxes. That's just their latest spin.
They've failed at cutting spending

They've failed at shrinking government

They've failed at 'family values'

I guess they need some old ca$h cow to beat
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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That was stupid actually.....and I'm all for Women's Rights.

It's complete hyperbole to say Republicans want to force women to get abortions in some back alley just because they don't want TAXPAYER funding of abortions.

MoveOn is famous for that kind of garbage which insults people's intelligence.
So please explain these. This list is from Political Loudmouth on facebook:

OHIO: Republicans are launching five separate bills aimed at restricting access to abortions, including a controversial measure banning the procedure as early as six weeks after conception." One proposed law would outlaw abortions from the moment a fetus' heartbeat is detected.

SOUTH DAKOTA: Legislation seeks to redefine the definition of "justifiable homicide" to the defense of an "unborn child." Abortion-rights advocates immediately described the pending statute as "an invitation to murder abortion providers.â€

IOWA: A panel of the state House Human Resources Committee approved language that would criminalize doctors who perform abortions.

FLORIDA: An ordained minister, who is also a Republican lawmaker, has introduced the Florida For Life Act, which seeks to outlaw most abortions.

MONTANA, OKLAHOMA, FLORIDA, TEXAS, IOWA, NORTH DAKOTA: New "personhood" bills define "personhood" at a fetus’s earliest moments – even earlier than the current test set forth by the Supreme Court.

NATIONAL: One bill would prevent women from purchasing insurance that includes abortion coverage in the new insurance exchanges even if they're using their own money. This kind of restriction could lead to insurance companies dropping abortion coverage entirely. The same bill would also levy a special tax on small businesses and individuals who purchase insurance coverage that includes abortion. Another bill would, incredibly, allow hospitals to turn away a woman seeking an abortion, even if she'll die without it—a major change from current law.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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Abortion is murder. Anyone who is "pro choice" supports murder as a choice.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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Abortion is murder. Anyone who is "pro choice" supports murder as a choice.
BULLETIN: Vladimir Ilyich Lenin's theory that "A lie told often enough becomes truth" isn't true.

Neither is your statement.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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BULLETIN: Vladimir Ilyich Lenin's theory that "A lie told often enough becomes truth" isn't true.

Neither is your statement.
How is it not murder? In order to perform an abortion correctly, the brain stem must be severed, or limbs torn apart, or brain matter vacuumed out of the base of the skull, or acid burning; all without anesthesia. Abortion is a barbaric, horrific practice all in the name of "choice." Explain to me why this is acceptable to you?

Edit: Ironic that you quoted Lenin, when he was an advocate of abortion, euthanasia and eugenics; a hero of the radical left.
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Old 02-16-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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excellent ad. republicans may not "want' women to have coat hanger abortions but that is what will happen if abortions become illegal.
What a stupid thing to say , you are a sucker , you drank all the cool-aid. Republicans don't want tax dollars to pay for abortions. Its not that costly , it can be done in a place where women generally pay full price , like the plastic surgeon .
If you saw what they do use to suck the baby out ,and the jar full of dead baby, you would think a coat hanger was lovely.
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