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Nothing in the Wisconsin protests is illegal. They assembled, they protested.
Not true. It is illegal for a teacher strike in WI. They were within their rights to assemble, even Walker has said that he will not try to stop them b/c it's their right.
There is one bright spot to what is happening in Wis today. The voters across this nation are getting a good hard look at what is store for them if the new types of Republicans take charge of our government. No more unions, no more minimum wage, no more welfare, no more Medicare, no more SS, no more food stamps, no more child labor laws, no more public assistance in any way, and no more discussion, just follow their orders and do not talk back. Is that Really what you want? Think about it, because if you ever allow it to take a strong foothold there will NO going back, ever.
Casper
Um, that is not him redirecting funds without permission. That is him asking to be allowed to redirect the funds, which is exactly what I said he did. Thanks.
"Fair weather" derives from people who won't go out in bad weather.
No, I don't know squat about snow. I have only lived my entire life in the northern US, to wit, Pennsylvania, New York, Delaware (well, they don't get much, and I was only there a year), Illinois (7 years in Champaign), and these 30 years in Colorado. Boo hoo for your snow problems.
The spin on the fact that the TPs couldn't draw as many people as the pro-union protesters is hilarious. We sure didn't hear that stuff in the fall of 2009, when tens of thousands (some of the RWs say hundreds of thousands) showed up in DC on a *Saturday*. I guess none of them were from Wisconsin, where they're all working.
I was in no way asking for pity. If you live in the snow, then you understand what's going on and understand why people wouldn't be coming out in droves during that kind of weather. There are tons of people who support Walker and he will win this fight.
And yeah, "fair weather" might have originally come from the weather but in modern times, which we currently live in, it means not supporting something as soon as it doesn't go your way.
And you are either completely clueless or being dishonest, because the fight in Wis is not about the budget and never has been, it is about breaking the back of the teachers union and in the process all unions working with the state.
I am all for cutting budgets in a rational manner and I am watching what they are cutting in my state and at the federal level, some of it does not seem like rational cutting to me. Nope from what I am seeing most are not supporting the Gov of Wis and the Patry of No ain't looking so good right now either, and wait until their tactics lead to a government shutdown, their approval rating will drop through the floor. As I have said before, I approve, go for it, I want the new GOP to show their true colors, keep pushing, by the time 2012 comes around people will spit when they say GOP, and that will be that, keep up the good work
Casper
The potential gov't shutdown is due to the left shirking their responsibilities, you have it backward.
I didn't see any salary that was surprising for someone who probably had to do graduate work and is paying back student loans. Does the average person living in Wisconsin have a graduate degree.
There is one bright spot to what is happening in Wis today. The voters across this nation are getting a good hard look at what is store for them if the new types of Republicans take charge of our government. No more unions, no more minimum wage, no more welfare, no more Medicare, no more SS, no more food stamps, no more child labor laws, no more public assistance in any way, and no more discussion, just follow their orders and do not talk back. Is that Really what you want? Think about it, because if you ever allow it to take a strong foothold there will NO going back, ever.
Casper
My wish list includes:
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE - I think it
should be a citizen right of birth, not just those NOT PAYING
into health care as a union demand. PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS are the reason
we don't have UHC. I am paying for you in the public sector, I am paying for me as self employed in the private sector, and You don't have a clue what it costs.
Why aren't there protests in Detroit ?
They are talking of completely canceling the teacher union contracts.
Which really is the best way to do it and how my district handled it. Detroit, like my city has to close 50% of its schools. It should fire all the teachers then re-hire the good teachers under new contracts.
Maybe they should do that in Madison the end of this school session? Taking note of course, of those with the "blue flu".
No sarcasm at all. You said you had pics of TPers coming to rallies with children. I want to see you back up that claim, and I was saying I don't want to see pics of them with their own kids, but random kids just to make a point about something or other, as the teachers have done here.
Here is a link I posted on another thread. This is hardly news, except for those who just started following politics last week.
There is a whole set of pictures of kids, some of whom are very young, too young to know why they were there other than Mommy and Daddy took them and told them to hold this sign. Some aren't even old enough to read the sign.
Number 1, you cannot use a link like that. It's aggregated info from different sources that may or may not be correct. It's also old. I have posted reputable links already, please stop trying to refute this, it's making you look quite dense.
Number 2, nobody is trash talking teachers, we are demanding that teachers put their jobs and students first instead of their wallets. If they can't do that, they are crappy human beings. I have no problem with teachers in general, just these teachers who walked out on their students.
Obviously people make typos and it doesn't mean I'm an idiot or stupid, the way you would make it seem. I meant to say the graduation rate is dismal at only about 60%.
What's "old" about the information in my link? It gives 2009 salaries (a mere 14 months ago), and the salaries are further broken down into school districts in every state. Then they are broken down again into 10th percentile, 25th, median, 75th and 90th. I don't know why this information would be any less accurate than yours, from some right wing think tank.
Calling teachers jerkoffs is trash talk, if anything is.
And please knock off the personal attacks! It only makes you look bad.
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