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How is it fair that I have to pay say 10% of my hc and 5% of a union members HC while they only pay 2%
( Not real numbers just used to make the point) Its actually higher then the numbers I used
It's not about "fairness". It's about what people are able to negotiate with their employers. Those who have "collective bargaining power" tend to end up with better benefits than those who don't. Rather than complaining that it's not fair for them to get better benefits than you, and therefore their benefits should be reduced, perhaps you should be complaining (or perhaps organizing) to get better benefits for yourself and your colleagues.
That said, I don't agree that everything a union tries to squeeze out of a corporation should be given over to them, and I do agree that it's not unreasonable to ask union members to contribute more towards their health insurance premiums (note I didn't say anything about "fairness", but "reasonableness").
But this strike isn't just about specific benefits, but about the governor attempting to squash the abilities of the unions to negotiate, essentially destroying the unions as a whole. I don't always support the issues some unions strike over (I have crossed picket lines to do my business when I believe they're in the wrong), but on this one, I'm behind them.
The Chicago and Communist Union way. Legislative democratic process be damned if the bullies do not get their way.
Obama is on the side of the Communist Unions. He has drawn the line and is clearly the enemy within as Obama encourages anti-government protests within the individual states.
Impeach Obama now!
This bares repeating! I have always felt hussein obama was an enemy of America. He and the Dems/communists proved it.
But this strike isn't just about specific benefits, but about the governor attempting to squash the abilities of the unions to negotiate, essentially destroying the unions as a whole. I don't always support the issues some unions strike over (I have crossed picket lines to do my business when I believe they're in the wrong), but on this one, I'm behind them.
You're misinformed. The union will still be able to negotiate on behalf of it's members.
Right now the union pays NOTHING for their own pensions benefits and 6% for their own HC - how is that fair?
How is it fair FORCING a teacher to become a union member (if they want to work), taking dues out of their paycheck that goes straight to the democrat party?
WASHINGTON -- Building on the momentum in Wisconsin, where tens of thousands of protesters have turned out to oppose Republican Gov. Scott Walker's effort to strip collective-bargaining rights from the state's public-employee unions, President Barack Obama's campaign organization is mobilizing its followers in Ohio and Indiana, where similar measures are being considered.
Would you be upset if the repugs protested against you and your children losing your military bennies?
The NEA clearly does not care about the failing state of our education system, does not care about the children, and only cares about sticking it to the government and tax payer. Absolutely disgraceful and disgusting. No surprise that Obama supports them. The guy is completely delusional about economic reality.
Interesting opinion, but that's all it is: your opinion.
It's not about "fairness". It's about what people are able to negotiate with their employers. Those who have "collective bargaining power" tend to end up with better benefits than those who don't. ...................
The employers of the unionized teachers ARE the taxpayers; and, this bill puts unionized teacher benefit increases up to a ballot vote to the taxpayers. That is equal negotiation instead of one sided negotiation.
Didn't hear you complaining when the Tea Party were out protesting against a democratically elected government.
Hypocrites ... You bet
This is a state issue and bussing in astroturf from all over the place is the problem with this protest. hussein obama and paid protestors, that do not live in the state, should have kept out of it.
You're misinformed. The union will still be able to negotiate on behalf of it's members.
Right now the union pays NOTHING for their own pensions benefits and 6% for their own HC - how is that fair?
How is it fair FORCING a teacher to become a union member (if they want to work), taking dues out of their paycheck that goes straight to the democrat party?
Not only that, even with Walker's suggested reforms, they will still be paying less than the average private sector worker.
My mother paid over $500 in union dues last year...only to support a political agenda she doesn't even agree with. How is that right?
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