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"The Compassion Capital Fund, which distributed $148.3 million from 2002 to 2005, was created "to expand the role that faith-based and community groups play in providing social services to those in need," according to the White House. . . The distribution of new money to conservative organizations is a small part of an estimated flood of $2 billion a year in federal grants to religious and religiously affiliated organizations.. . such as Catholic Charities, the Salvation Army and Lutheran Social Services."
The argument we keep hearing about "defunding" Planned Parenthood is, "let charities pick up the slack", or "let major donors pick up the slack."
Okay. I'll see your Planned Parenthood defunding and raise you with The Compassion Capital Fund, Catholic Charities, the Salvation Army, Lutheran Social Services, Heritage Community Services, the Community-Based Abstinence Education grant program ($391.7 million alone), the Door of Hope Pregnancy Care Center, and on and on and on.
I find it outrageous that my tax dollars are going to CHURCHES who preach practices that don't work and to religious organizations that promote junk science.
And we aren't talking chump change here. This isn't the couple hundred million a year that Planned Parenthood gets to assist women of all religions and no religion. This is $2 BILLION A YEAR going to churches and "Faith-based" organizations. That's ten times what Planned Parenthood receives in federal grant monies.
Government shouldn't be in the religion business. Our money should be spent on infrastructure, national defense and non-religious social services.
I look forward to everyone's agreement on the desperate need to cut this unnecessary $2 BILLION A YEAR from our nation's budget. Let churches fundraise on their own and look to "major donors", not handouts from the government.
Jill61...you are making entirely too much sense for this forum. You are obviously a godless commie liberal. :>)
(Taxes are bad! --Unless they go to something I want! Then they are good! Yeah!)
"The Compassion Capital Fund, which distributed $148.3 million from 2002 to 2005, was created "to expand the role that faith-based and community groups play in providing social services to those in need," according to the White House. . . The distribution of new money to conservative organizations is a small part of an estimated flood of $2 billion a year in federal grants to religious and religiously affiliated organizations.. . such as Catholic Charities, the Salvation Army and Lutheran Social Services."
The argument we keep hearing about "defunding" Planned Parenthood is, "let charities pick up the slack", or "let major donors pick up the slack."
Okay. I'll see your Planned Parenthood defunding and raise you with The Compassion Capital Fund, Catholic Charities, the Salvation Army, Lutheran Social Services, Heritage Community Services, the Community-Based Abstinence Education grant program ($391.7 million alone), the Door of Hope Pregnancy Care Center, and on and on and on.
I find it outrageous that my tax dollars are going to CHURCHES who preach practices that don't work and to religious organizations that promote junk science.
And we aren't talking chump change here. This isn't the couple hundred million a year that Planned Parenthood gets to assist women of all religions and no religion. This is $2 BILLION A YEAR going to churches and "Faith-based" organizations. That's ten times what Planned Parenthood receives in federal grant monies.
Government shouldn't be in the religion business. Our money should be spent on infrastructure, national defense and non-religious social services.
I look forward to everyone's agreement on the desperate need to cut this unnecessary $2 BILLION A YEAR from our nation's budget. Let churches fundraise on their own and look to "major donors", not handouts from the government.
So in your logic, "providing social services to those in need" is on the same level as providing abortions to those who can't seem to take responsibility for their own sex drive?
I know PP does other things too, but they charge for abortions on the other side.. They won't fold without federal money and they were not doing the greatest job of PROTECTING WOMEN all in the name of "tolerance". No child should be able to get an abortion and allow some predator to escape the law!
I'm not anti-abortion and I'm an Atheist......but those faith based organizations always seem to do much more with way less than other entities can accomplish.
We sing kumbaya. Now call your representative, please. Thank you for your consistency.
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So in your logic, "providing social services to those in need" is on the same level as providing abortions to those who can't seem to take responsibility for their own sex drive?
Federal tax dollars don't go to provide abortion services.
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I know PP does other things too, but they charge for abortions on the other side.. They won't fold without federal money and they were not doing the greatest job of PROTECTING WOMEN all in the name of "tolerance". No child should be able to get an abortion and allow some predator to escape the law!
Churches (especially the Catholic Church!) won't shut their doors without federal money, either. Nor do they do the greatest job of protecting anyone, female or male.
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I'm not anti-abortion and I'm an Atheist......but those faith based organizations always seem to do much more with way less than other entities can accomplish.
Do much more what? Do you have a cite for that? And why does that entitle them to my tax dollars to the tune of $2 BILLION a YEAR when our country is sinking in debt?
Federal tax dollars don't go to provide abortion services.
You are smart enough to realize that the money gets co-mingled.
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Churches (especially the Catholic Church!) won't shut their doors without federal money, either.
No, they won't, but they may not be able to provide the help for the truly needy and to places like Haiti, etc.
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Nor do they do the greatest job of protecting anyone, female or male.
They aren't in the protection business either. They are getting these funds to help the needy.
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Do much more what? Do you have a cite for that? And why does that entitle them to my tax dollars to the tune of $2 BILLION a YEAR when our country is sinking in debt?
I'm an Atheist, but that doesn't mean I have no compassion for people who really need help, often through no fault of their own. When I donate, I donate to these faith-based organizations because they aren't corrupt and they seem to provide more help with less money than other charities. Your dollars help more people through them.
Catholic Charities and other similar faith based entities were there to help Haitians, hurricane victims, flood victims, fire victims and all sorts of things including food kitchens, warm places to sleep, jackets in the cold, and rescue missions.
Calm down people. Maybe someone should have looked past 2005 ?
Save your emails and go back and hunt for some more programs to cut.
But this time see if they are still being funded please ?
I understand you're upset about this and I think your motives are good. I saw your other posts on this topic and you make sense.
I'm not anti-Planned Parenthood....honestly.
But I really was disgusted to see those videos. I know they fired the people involved. But then I also read about a lady who was once the head of a PP and she did say they've gone SO far into this idea of complete tolerance that they aren't protecting women the way they should be. I really worry for teenage girls especially. Certainly these things bother you as well.
Calm down people. Maybe someone should have looked past 2005 ?
Save your emails and go back and hunt for some more programs to cut.
But this time see if they are still being funded please ?
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