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Yeah, but i think this stuff cuts across all races. Probably not the drugs, but the video games and stuff.
Very little is unique to black people....its the DEGREE that makes it more noteworthy, however. Higher income youths, even before video games, parents could afford to buy them gadgets and things and get them involved in a wide variety of activities that poor parents could not afford. Hence, black poverty having been consistently at least 3 times the rate of white poverty, for the last 100 years, meant that blacks had far less opportunities, as youth, for fun that cost money. Thus, blacks engaged in the free fun that one was born with, which is running and jumping as they naturally PLAY. Whites play video game also, today, but that video gaming does not replace a previous generation of white youth who had to make fun the natural way, as it did with blacks. As I stated previously, many white youths parents could afford to keep them stimulated by buying THINGS to keep them occupied, before the video game era took off.....and white kids were hitting the books more too and the opportunity cost of these activities was paid by the dearth in athletic prowess. This afforded them more mental prowess, because their activities were training and stimulating their brains more than their brawn.
That noted, I also think that the rhyming and rapping explosion has come with opportunity cost as well. I am pretty sure this impacts black male youth at much higher rates than any other group, because hip hop is still dominated by the black culture that gave birth to it. If one is spending more of their time writing rhymes and practicing their flow....they are spending less time at the parks and in the gyms, like they did before so many youth dreamed of becoming rappers. In the past, most black youth dreamed of becoming athletes and thus engaged in athletic play. Today, just as many want to be rappers and see it as a viable path for making money by selling their CD's on the streets.
I think all these changes in society in general, and the black community in particular, is partly why obesity has exploded in America. Sitting around more is a result of the modern lifestyle of youth. You have video games, computers with your social networks, the internet, writing rhymes, producing beats....kids have little incentive to give off their donkey. Thus, they are now fatter and slower. Hence, the quality of athletes coming out of the black community is declining on average. You still have your superstars like Labron James, but there would be three or four Labron James given the current black population today relative to the black population 30 or 40 years ago.
Myself being involved in college and pro sports for over 30 years is not going to indulge in the black athlete versus white athlete thing. But it should be noted the quantity of white athletes in Football, Basketball and even Baseball is not going to increase anytime soon. In fact within the next 10 years whites will make up less then 50 percent of Major League Baseball. MLB is currently lobbying hard for immigration reform. If it happens and there are no limits on how many Visas they can give out, MLB will become strong majority Latin very fast. On another note the reason why blacks choose basketball and football over baseball is simply because of the increased availability of scholarship money of those two sports. Now if you talk Hockey; it is a very expensive sport to play in one's youth and only kids from strong middle class and upper middle class family can afford it. That leaves a lot of black youth out.
It's not racial in baseball. Yeah, there may be less AMERICAN whites and blacks in MLB, but even now, baseball is still heavily black. It's just that those blacks are Latinos.
And white Latinos will be in the league in nice numbers too.
We'll see.
As for hockey, your argument doesn't hold up in my experience.
Poor white kids in Canada and the American northeast and upper midwest play hockey all the time. Sure, it's EASIER if you're middle class to procure the equipment, but money hasn't traditionally been an insurmountable barrier to playing hockey. Plenty of guys in the NHL came from tough circumstances.
Moreover, most black children are from middle class homes. American black children just aren't interested in the sport. If they wanted to play it and lived in a place like Chicago, Boston, St. Louis, Detroit, or Long Island, they could easily get into the sport at the lowest levels and work their way up. If you're good enough, you'll get the equipment...believe that.
So today I had an argument with a friend of mine regarding why black athletes dominate the major sports.
What are "the major sports" exactly?
When your friend watches the Sochi Olympics next year ask him to keep track of how many black athletes dominate any of those sports.
What are "the major sports" exactly?
When your friend watches the Sochi Olympics next year ask him to keep track of how many black athletes dominate any of those sports.
Bobsledding and the Luge aren't exactly major sports.
It's not racial in baseball. Yeah, there may be less AMERICAN whites and blacks in MLB, but even now, baseball is still heavily black. It's just that those blacks are Latinos.
And white Latinos will be in the league in nice numbers too.
We'll see.
As for hockey, your argument doesn't hold up in my experience.
Poor white kids in Canada and the American northeast and upper midwest play hockey all the time. Sure, it's EASIER if you're middle class to procure the equipment, but money hasn't traditionally been an insurmountable barrier to playing hockey. Plenty of guys in the NHL came from tough circumstances.
Moreover, most black children are from middle class homes. American black children just aren't interested in the sport. If they wanted to play it and lived in a place like Chicago, Boston, St. Louis, Detroit, or Long Island, they could easily get into the sport at the lowest levels and work their way up. If you're good enough, you'll get the equipment...believe that.
Im going to have to agree with the other guy about hockey. Poor kids might get a chance to play....but if you do not get a lot of ice time as a youth, which cost money, you will rarely become as good as those whose parents can afford them much ice time in their youth.
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This is not a head scratcher for me. Poor people tend to excel in sports that do not require money and equipment, to hone the skill. Children of wealthy people have a lot more options to engage in as youth. Jacks of all trades often do not become masters at any trade. Poor youths tend to be more narrowly focused and hence can master a few athletic trades better as a result. When it comes to race, blacks in this country and the world are a LOT poorer than whites and hence become masterful at a higher rate in the skill sets that do not require much money to become good at. Also, door opened up for blacks in athletics wider and sooner than they really opened up for blacks in the professions. Thus, black success was often seen as through sports, especially for the black male. They could turn on the TV and see people that looked like them getting fame and fortune in a few sports. Thus, blacks had an extra ECONOMIC incentive for sports as a way up and out the ghetto, and there were many role models of people who looked like them doing just that. Jamaicans have no special genetics that should allow them to produce better sprinters than African Americans and certainly not Nigerians or Ghanians. What exists in Jamaica is an intense incentive to get out of poverty and a lot less paths to do. This has resulted in track and field becoming a major youth sport in JA, where coaches seek to identify talent at a very early age and begin nurturing and training that talent to produce world class sprinters. A key fact in success is the power of BELIEF. Once you BELIEVE you can achieve something great.....you will achieve more than you would have if one never came to that epiphany and certainly more than one would achieve that does not believe in themselves. Black people BELIEVE in their athletic ability today, because of the images of success that they see of other black people. If we just started believing in our intellectual abilities......we would be unstoppable.....in a good way
And according to the top exercise physiologist in the world in this particular area what you describe comprises approximately 25% of the formula.
i dont agree with your post, you start off well but later exclaim that black athletes are at the top of the food chain. if that were so i would only see black faces at the olympics.
not so.
It's not racial in baseball. Yeah, there may be less AMERICAN whites and blacks in MLB, but even now, baseball is still heavily black. It's just that those blacks are Latinos.
And white Latinos will be in the league in nice numbers too.
We'll see.
As for hockey, your argument doesn't hold up in my experience.
Poor white kids in Canada and the American northeast and upper midwest play hockey all the time. Sure, it's EASIER if you're middle class to procure the equipment, but money hasn't traditionally been an insurmountable barrier to playing hockey. Plenty of guys in the NHL came from tough circumstances.
Moreover, most black children are from middle class homes. American black children just aren't interested in the sport. If they wanted to play it and lived in a place like Chicago, Boston, St. Louis, Detroit, or Long Island, they could easily get into the sport at the lowest levels and work their way up. If you're good enough, you'll get the equipment...believe that.
i dont agree with your post, you start off well but later exclaim that black athletes are at the top of the food chain. if that were so i would only see black faces at the olympics.
not so.
Jamaicans have the same genes as Ghanaians, Nigerians and Congolese. So why are the sprints basically Jamaican and African American athletes battling each other? Indeed genetics alone will suggest that West Africans should whip African Americans, and even Jamaicans as both have varying degrees of non West African ancestry.
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