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and you want to know WHY it is a problem to have 'collective barganing' in the PUBLIC SECTOR............The problem is there is no REAL "collective bargaining." ......Public sector unions are a client of a political bureaucracy that wants their vote. The taxpayer - the "employer" - isn't a player in the bargaining process.
Neither are shareholders in a COMPANY. Shareholders are entirely dependent upon company management to watch out for their interests in the same way that voters are dependent upon goverment leaders to watch out for THEIR interests.
It's not that different in that regard. If you don't like the way your elected officials are dealing with the unions, then vote them out (as has been done in WI).
My goodness, that's extreme taxation. It's like renting from the government. In my state, where a lot of outsiders think of as very uncool place to live, the property tax on my 2200 sq. ft. home is $2297.
Gawdamighty, my property tax on my 1900 sq. ft. home is only $927 for the current year and that is after nearly a $100 raise from last year. It seems the city spent like a bunch of Democrats last year and have to tax and spend this year.
Maybe taxpayers should be treated more like shareholders and get votes based on how much tax they pay. You should get one vote for every dollar of tax you pay.
Maybe taxpayers should be treated more like shareholders and get votes based on how much tax they pay. You should get one vote for every dollar of tax you pay.
No, I don't think the founders would have cared much for that. They'd had their share of wealthy royalty who thought they were better than everyone else.
Going by liberals' logic, of course. I mean they claim collective bargaining is a fundamental human right, right? Well if public sector employees have the right to collectively bargain for their salaries and benefits packages, then by their own logic, we taxpayers have the right to collectively bargain our tax rates. When government employees don't like the terms of their employment, they walk of the job and strike. Well if they have that right, then we, as taxpayers, the one's paying their paychecks, have the right to strike as well, i.e. stop paying our taxes. It's a two-way street. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If they have the right to unionize and strike, then so do we.
No, only for the pure fact that I'm against all unions. I do see your point about striking, though, and we wouldn't even need to organize a union to get it done. We also do somewhat bargain for our taxes via the representatives we elect.
The problem to your theory is that everyone pays taxes.
You do know government workers pay taxes too right?
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We also do somewhat bargain for our taxes via the representatives we elect.
