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Old 09-24-2011, 06:27 PM
 
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I suspect that liberals use the rail system as much as any other political party... so why the fascination with something most of them wouldn't use... cause it makes them feel better... I find it intensely ironic that most of the liberals that I know drive a car but demand that a rail system be in place even though they would never use it... you think money grows on trees or something...
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Old 09-24-2011, 06:30 PM
 
Location: NJ
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evilnewbie, Go to DC or Chicago. It is used. They key as with any product is careful planning, and full development. We have a rail system that serves a few counties just twice daily in/out of Nashville..pathetic planning, wouldn't invest needed money, poorly used, and quite predictable. had they fully developed and funded it with many runs every hour, like the New Haven-NYC line, the results would have been much better. Short-sighted thinking destroys public transit.
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Old 09-24-2011, 06:46 PM
 
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I suspect that liberals use the rail system as much as any other political party... so why the fascination with something most of them wouldn't use... cause it makes them feel better... I find it intensely ironic that most of the liberals that I know drive a car but demand that a rail system be in place even though they would never use it... you think money grows on trees or something...
We use rail twice a day, five days a week, most weeks of the year. On occasion, we use it to travel into the city for sports events and the like.
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:25 AM
 
Location: The State Of California
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I can't wait until all the oil disappear and everybody suddenly see the light...
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:00 AM
 
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I can't wait until all the oil disappear and everybody suddenly see the light...
Yeah we'll just wake up one morning and it will be gone
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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From this document, page 46, emphasis mine: http://dot.alaska.gov/stwdplng/areaplans/lrtpp/documents/SWLRTPPfinal022908-v2.pdf (broken link)

I think I'm done talking to you.
ROFL! Obviously you need to look at a map. There are no federal highways or interstates in Alaska. Alaska is not even connected to the lower-48 fool. LOL!
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Old 09-25-2011, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I can't wait until all the oil disappear and everybody suddenly see the light...
Don't hold your breath.

We still have lots of oil in Alaska.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Supachal, Rails usefulness extends beyond cities. Chicago and DC both run good systems that reach rather deep into the suburbs, to name just two. The combined urban and bedroom burb population is imense, and rail is not fully developed there, but it would make sense there, especially if ROI were done right, meaning it must account for road repair costs saved, as well as rail net taxpayer costs.
I agree with your larger point, but I'd like to add this fact to the discussion. Roads typically are designed for the heaviest vehicle permitted on them....mainly large trucks (semi's etc...), so my guess is that a few less cars on the road aren't really going to make much of a different in the road repair cost factor. My guess is that weather (in much of the country) is the biggest factor in breaking roads down. The freeze/thaw cycle along with just a few cars can do wonders in breaking down a road.
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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Don't hold your breath.

We still have lots of oil in Alaska.
Yes and we use Tons of oil each and everyday.
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Old 09-25-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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aren't you forgetting the 13 million or so that use that line in the new york-new haven area. even w/ 13 counties and counting all of the live stock in the nashville area you wouldn't have enough to fill up the petticoat junction express. lol. we rode on one occasion, and i think it had 17 people on it, that included the conductor and the three of us.
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