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Old 02-23-2011, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It's all very different when it comes to public workers and the employer paying them are the taxpayers who are now drowning.

For public workers to decide they're going to have much more of the working people's wages confiscated for their own benefit is a kind of serfdom. They no longer believe they work for the people, they believe the people work for them. They believe they are entitled to any amount of our hard earned money they want.

No matter that taxpayers lose their jobs, are losing their homes, the public worker doesn't expect to ever do any belt tightening themselves.
This attitude, that public workers are "confiscating" the public's wages for their own benefit, is part of the problem. Public workers are performing a public service. Look at how irate people get about street plowing when it snows, starting threads about lazy public works employees, etc. Just one example.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Look at how irate people get about street plowing when it snows, starting threads about lazy public works employees, etc. Just one example.
You make no sense.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:21 PM
 
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Unions force people to pay union dues with little to nothing to say about how they spend their dues. Unions are nothing more than thugs anymore, in bed with communist, marxist and socialist organizations.


It is also too hard to get rid of lazy or non-producing employees.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:28 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This attitude, that public workers are "confiscating" the public's wages for their own benefit, is part of the problem. Public workers are performing a public service.
That's all well and good, but they lost the taxpayers' support with their incessant demands for ever-increasing salaries and benefits, more and better than what the taxpayers earn in the private sector. The vast majority DOES NOT support the public employee leeches sucking more and more out of their paychecks. When the parasites are living better than the host, there's a problem. People are well aware of that now, and there's no turning back.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:32 PM
 
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Taxpayers Paid Cop $813,000 on Retirement Year.
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- Richard Miranda. The ex-Tucson police chief is now the city's deputy city manager, whose responsibilities include overseeing the police department. He got $511,570 from DROP in June 2008. Salary: $166,941. Pension: $134,054.

- Jesse Locksa. The ex-Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputy chief is now a dispatch commander. He received $576,463 from DROP in January 2007. Salary: $70,969. Pension: $97,890.

- Timothy Overton. The ex-Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputy chief is now a forensics commander. He got $445,518 from DROP in August 2007. Salary: $70,969. Pension: $75,186.

- Gerard Sheridan. The ex-Maricopa County Sheriff's Office executive chief is now acting chief deputy. He got $440,441 from DROP in November 2008. Salary: $143,000. Pension: $77,239.

- Lawrence Black. The ex-Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputy chief is now an administrator on paid leave amid an internal investigation. He received $386,955 from DROP in July 2007. Salary: $79,996. Pension: $64,089.

- Steven Werner. The ex-Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputy chief is now an intelligence analyst. He received $365,272 from DROP in January 2008. Salary: $62,940. Pension: $62,261.

- Rollie Seebert. The ex-Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputy chief is now a detention academy commander. He received $270,405 from DROP in November 2006. Salary: $82,894. Pension: $61,983.
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:27 PM
 
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Unions force people to pay union dues .
You don't have to join a union. I don't belong to a union, less than 20% of Americans belong to unions. Don't want to pay union dues, don't join the union. It's amazing if you complain about work conditions at a company like Walmart, right wingers say, get a job elsewhere, yet that rule doesn't apply to unions.
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:55 PM
 
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You don't have to join a union. I don't belong to a union, less than 20% of Americans belong to unions. Don't want to pay union dues, don't join the union. It's amazing if you complain about work conditions at a company like Walmart, right wingers say, get a job elsewhere, yet that rule doesn't apply to unions.

I guess you wouldn't consider the insatiable GREED of public union workers on the backs of taxpayers that work at places like Wal-Mart or McDonalds. These greedy teachers want taxpayers to pay for their Viagra? Pigs. Give me a break! So much for the left wingnuts caring about the poor.
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Old 02-24-2011, 01:03 AM
 
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Perhaps they need to rethink this. They are not the NAACP you know, these people will fight back.
Because they want to polarize the country and **** off so many people that the backlash will literally unhinge the Republican party. You should call the Koch brothers the "Stalin Brothers". These guys will single-handly push this country towards socialism.
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Old 02-24-2011, 02:48 AM
 
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Because they want to polarize the country and **** off so many people that the backlash will literally unhinge the Republican party. You should call the Koch brothers the "Stalin Brothers". These guys will single-handly push this country towards socialism.

The only people pushing this country towards socialism is the socialist, communists, union thugs and hussein obama with his god Soros. Watch any of their protest on the left and they are all there with their signs promoting their hate America groups.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Fredericksburg, Virginia
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The only people pushing this country towards socialism is the socialist, communists, union thugs and hussein obama with his god Soros. Watch any of their protest on the left and they are all there with their signs promoting their hate America groups.
You're a Beck lover, aren't you. It shows...
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