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Making it justifiable homicide to kill an abortion doctor isn't exactly what one would call a mainstream position--DO YA THINK?
but that's not what is being proposed
This is the bill:
FOR AN ACT ENTITLED, An Act to expand the definition of justifiable homicide to provide for the protection of certain unborn children.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA:
Section 1. That § 22-16-34 be amended to read as follows:
22-16-34. Homicide is justifiable if committed by any person while resisting any attempt to murder such person, or to harm the unborn child of such person in a manner and to a degree likely to result in the death of the unborn child, or to commit any felony upon him or her, or upon or in any dwelling house in which such person is.
Section 2. That § 22-16-35 be amended to read as follows:
22-16-35. Homicide is justifiable if committed by any person in the lawful defense of such person, or of his or her husband, wife, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant, or the unborn child of any such enumerated person, if there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to commit a felony, or to do some great personal injury, and imminent danger of such design being
accomplished.
has ZERO to due with abortion, or abortion doctors
its about DEFENSE of your property and the persons within your property (to include the unborn) when you are being robbed and a FELONY is being committed
its saying you are justified in protecting your property and loved-ones from TRESPASSERS
to say that it is making ity legal to kill abortion doctors is a LIE..you dont want to be called a LIAR now ..do you???
FOR AN ACT ENTITLED, An Act to expand the definition of justifiable homicide to provide for the protection of certain unborn children.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA:
Section 1. That § 22-16-34 be amended to read as follows:
22-16-34. Homicide is justifiable if committed by any person while resisting any attempt to murder such person, or to harm the unborn child of such person in a manner and to a degree likely to result in the death of the unborn child, or to commit any felony upon him or her, or upon or in any dwelling house in which such person is.
Section 2. That § 22-16-35 be amended to read as follows:
22-16-35. Homicide is justifiable if committed by any person in the lawful defense of such person, or of his or her husband, wife, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant, or the unborn child of any such enumerated person, if there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to commit a felony, or to do some great personal injury, and imminent danger of such design being
accomplished.
has ZERO to due with abortion, or abortion doctors
its about DEFENSE of your property and the persons within your property (to include the unborn) when you are being robbed and a FELONY is being committed
its saying you are justified in protecting your property and loved-ones from TRESPASSERS
to say that it is making ity legal to kill abortion doctors is a LIE..you dont want to be called a LIAR now ..do you???
My understanding is that the last paragraph is vague enough to cover this. I'm too nice to call you a liar (it's not polite, but you obviously don't get that) but the language is pretty clear. I'm not a routine abortion supporter, but I think it has a place in cases of rape, incest and when the life of the mother is in danger. This legislation does exactly what I said. Are you trying to deliberately mislead people?
Making it justifiable homicide to kill an abortion doctor isn't exactly what one would call a mainstream position--DO YA THINK?
This bill was listed as one of the samples of the "GOP's war on women".
Do you think that this is the intent of the bill? In other words do you really believe that the intention of the bill is to prevent abortions?
I don't see it. In fact, I believe that anyone who does see it would have to be an unhinged, frothing at the mouth pro-choicer.
This bill was listed as one of the samples of the "GOP's war on women".
Do you think that this is the intent of the bill? In other words do you really believe that the intention of the bill is to prevent abortions?
I don't see it. In fact, I believe that anyone who does see it would have to be an unhinged, frothing at the mouth pro-choicer.
I hate to burst your bubble, but that wouldn't be me. I'm pretty conservative on the abortion issue.
The bill didn't initially have the language they were concerned about, but it was amended in committee by a very anti-abortion rep. Although some in the right to life movement were concerned it would incite violence as an excuse for murdering docs, others cheered it on. The defense most commonly used by folks who shoot abortion docs is justifiable homicide. Doesn't matter now--the controversy has it stalled in committee as of last week, until the language is brought back to the original or dropped.
Dave Leach (quoted from the article), an anti abortion activist: “There may be something I’m overlooking, but from all appearances, this bill would certainly justify an individual taking the life of an abortionist in order to save human lives,” he said.
My understanding is that the last paragraph is vague enough to cover this. I'm too nice to call you a liar (it's not polite, but you obviously don't get that) but the language is pretty clear. I'm not a routine abortion supporter, but I think it has a place in cases of rape, incest and when the life of the mother is in danger. This legislation does exactly what I said. Are you trying to deliberately mislead people?
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Originally Posted by mb1547
I hate to burst your bubble, but that wouldn't be me. I'm pretty conservative on the abortion issue.
The bill didn't initially have the language they were concerned about, but it was amended in committee by a very anti-abortion rep. Although some in the right to life movement were concerned it would incite violence as an excuse for murdering docs, others cheered it on. The defense most commonly used by folks who shoot abortion docs is justifiable homicide. Doesn't matter now--the controversy has it stalled in committee as of last week, until the language is brought back to the original or dropped.
Dave Leach (quoted from the article), an anti abortion activist: “There may be something I’m overlooking, but from all appearances, this bill would certainly justify an individual taking the life of an abortionist in order to save human lives,” he said.
just because someones OPINION says it COULD justify, this doesnt mean the laws or proposed laws states it
it is CLEAR it is taling about
its about DEFENSE of your property and the persons within your property (to include the unborn) when you are being robbed and a FELONY is being committed
its saying you are justified in protecting your property and loved-ones from TRESPASSERS
to say that it is making ity legal to kill abortion doctors would be spinning it way out tof the ballpark
repeating a lie, is still a lie
again the exact law
This is the bill:
FOR AN ACT ENTITLED, An Act to expand the definition of justifiable homicide to provide for the protection of certain unborn children.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF SOUTH DAKOTA:
Section 1. That § 22-16-34 be amended to read as follows:
22-16-34. Homicide is justifiable if committed by any person while resisting any attempt to murder such person, or to harm the unborn child of such person in a manner and to a degree likely to result in the death of the unborn child, or to commit any felony upon him or her, or upon or in any dwelling house in which such person is.
Section 2. That § 22-16-35 be amended to read as follows:
22-16-35. Homicide is justifiable if committed by any person in the lawful defense of such person, or of his or her husband, wife, parent, child, master, mistress, or servant, or the unborn child of any such enumerated person, if there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design to commit a felony, or to do some great personal injury, and imminent danger of such design being
accomplished.
NO-WHERE does it talk about abortion
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