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Old 02-23-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Not all will get fired but the rules stipulate notices go out by March 1 and Providence doesn't know the extent of it's budget problems so everyone of the teachers got a notice of possible layoff.

The union is a bit upset. There doesn't seem to be any easy way to balance budgets. At least they didn't try to take away any union rights.

Providence teachers receive layoff notices in budget crunch - Feb. 23, 2011
"This unprecedented action sacrifices the best interest of Providence students and teachers in the name of flexibility," said Steve Smith, president of the Providence Teachers Union. "This is a slap in the face to teachers who have supported the district in nationally recognized labor-management collaboration initiatives which have occurred in our city over the past two years."
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:05 PM
 
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what i would like to hear is that happening to all the too fat bureaucratic branches of the government..
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:11 PM
 
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Just layoffs?
Public schools need to be shut down completely, layoffs are a band aid on a cancer.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:23 PM
 
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I was talking with my dad about schools. He is 58 years old, and when he attended school he said classes were 30-40 people strong.

I was looking into Japan's schools, and it appears they have maintained 30-40 kids per class.

We could save billions by switching to larger class sizes.

Yes, a lot of people will be laid off. But better they suffer than everyone else.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:32 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I was talking with my dad about schools. He is 58 years old, and when he attended school he said classes were 30-40 people strong.

I was looking into Japan's schools, and it appears they have maintained 30-40 kids per class.

We could save billions by switching to larger class sizes.

Yes, a lot of people will be laid off. But better they suffer than everyone else.

But those who have learning disabilities and do not know it, will get lost within the suffle of such a large classroom. Some kids do not know that they have a learning disibility until they are much older.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Just layoffs?
Public schools need to be shut down completely, layoffs are a band aid on a cancer.
Sad! There are those who want better for their children and then there are those who selfishly don't give a damn!
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:38 PM
 
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But those who have learning disabilities and do not know it, will get lost within the suffle of such a large classroom. Some kids do not know that they have a learning disibility until they are much older.
I hear the excuses, but I always question how other countries do it better, for less and with more kids.

Singapore, Japan, Korea and China all have larger class sizes and get better results.

I know for some reason we're focused on the lowest performing students in America, which seems incredibly stupid to me. A kid with an IQ of <85 we will dump twice the money into educating, when he doesn't have the capability to ever return that investment to society. At my own high school we had classes for "learning challenged" kids. They rarely had over 10 students, and those students will NEVER go on to college. Their education cost 3 times as much, and they can never return that investment to society.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:40 PM
 
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So how long will the children get a break from the propaganda and indoctrination?
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:42 PM
 
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Sad! There are those who want better for their children and then there are those who selfishly don't give a damn!
Public teachers and their union?

We are in agreement then.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Actually class sizes in Japan run about 45-50. But there you have a homogenous society that self-regulates those who don't fit in and tracking. Neither of which we have.

Those of you who want to see class sizes of 40 please come visit me and help correct the tests I gave today for my class of 41. Five essays. Two hundred and five essays to be read, graded and posted by 3PM tomorrow in order to get them in for progress reports. Or my other class (Econ, 35 tests with 40 objective questions which include 6 data analysis short answer writings and 2 additional long form essays).
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