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Old 02-28-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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You people are from Mars.

The TEA party is about reducing government's influence over our lives, reducing government spending, and lowering the debt and deficit.

You can slap together all the wild and crazy straw dogs you like, and you will always be wrong.

It has always been the left in this country that want more government power, more government control and fewer freedoms and rights for the individual.
That's what the tea party ran on and lied about to get votes. When it came down to see what they are really about, they voted almost unanimously in favor of the patriot act which is the epitome of big government and anti-constitution.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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That's what the tea party ran on and lied about to get votes. When it came down to see what they are really about, they voted almost unanimously in favor of the patriot act which is the epitome of big government and anti-constitution.
..and when the democrats were in full and complete control of the federal government two years ago, did they do any different? Are you trying to tell me that the democrats were not fascists, but the republicans are, even though they both elected to maintain the Patriot Act?
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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..and when the democrats were in full and complete control of the federal government two years ago, did they do any different? Are you trying to tell me that the democrats were not fascists, but the republicans are, even though they both elected to maintain the Patriot Act?
i don't recall any screams of 'fascist' from tempie when this happened, do you?

Obama signs Patriot Act extension into law - The Hill's Floor Action
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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with leftists, there is no difference in this instance. the shrieks of hatred are impossible to miss.

would you like to see one of P&OC's resident leftists clamoring for the torture-murder of glenn beck, including his being blinded by a red-hot poker? just say the word.
You're no lefty, are you? And illustrate a lack of understanding, of differentiating political opposition from outright hatred. And trust me, the former can lead to the latter (as has been the case with politicians through out history, that they strive for elimination of people and organizations that do not bode well for their political future). This is done on more than mere political opposition.

As much as I detest Glenn Beck's rhetoric (primarily because him taking a lot of simpletons on a ride is clearly visible to those with even an ounce of functioning brain), I would never condone torture-murder or even imprisonment of such idiots. And I speak that as a lefty. However, I would challenge them to subject themselves to prove their point, on say torture, by walking the talk. How long has it been since Hannity boasted that he will gladly subject himself to waterboarding? Asking for him to go about fulfilling a claim is not what you're talking about, I hope.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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waterboarding is not torture
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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You're no lefty, are you? And illustrate a lack of understanding, of differentiating political opposition from outright hatred. And trust me, the former can lead to the latter (as has been the case with politicians through out history, that they strive for elimination of people and organizations that do not bode well for their political future). This is done on more than mere political opposition.

As much as I detest Glenn Beck's rhetoric (primarily because him taking a lot of simpletons on a ride is clearly visible to those with even an ounce of functioning brain), I would never condone torture-murder or even imprisonment of such idiots. And I speak that as a lefty. However, I would challenge them to subject themselves to prove their point, on say torture, by walking the talk. How long has it been since Hannity boasted that he will gladly subject himself to waterboarding? Asking for him to go about fulfilling a claim is not what you're talking about, I hope.
i'm concerned as to why you are so hung up on a word [hate] that is not even present in the made-up point in question. the rest of your invective is all over the map. what does waterboarding have to do with...well, anything?

explain please.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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i'm concerned as to why you are so hung up on a word [hate] that is not even present in the made-up point in question. the rest of your invective is all over the map. what does waterboarding have to do with...well, anything?

explain please.
Because of your inability to differentiate between hatred and political opposition. How many times do I have to repeat that?
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:31 AM
 
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Because of your inability to differentiate between hatred and political opposition. How many times do I have to repeat that?
..which has what, exactly, to do with what i quoted?

neither political opposition nor hatred were even mentioned
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Old 02-28-2011, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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..which has what, exactly, to do with what i quoted?

neither political opposition nor hatred were even mentioned
It has got to do with everything you've posted thus far, and I would rather not keep repeating self.
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Old 02-28-2011, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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fascism is leftist
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