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Old 03-05-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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It's not a lie of omission. The teachers' union rep made a statement complaining about it last August. How could she have done that if that fact of Walker's plan had been omitted?

Good grief! I've posted the article discussing this NUMEROUS times, and you all still can't stop parroting your spoon-fed talking points. When are you all going to start thinking for yourselves, and stop being manipulated tools?

The teachers' health insurance benefits have been a costly problem in WI since at least 2000 when an Insurance and Risk Managenement Assoc. Prof at UW-Madison* (state employee, no less) and an independent Insurance and Risk Management consultant examined the issue and found that the teachers' union's insurance company, the Wisconsin Education Association's Ins Corp, was overcharging by $50 million per year back then. The current estimate is that they are overcharging WI taxpayers $68 million per year.
http://www.wpri.org/Reports/Volume13/Vol13no8.pdf

*UW-Madison has a stellar Insurance and Risk Management Dept. consistently ranked in the top 5 nationwide - curent ranking is 4th.
Undergraduate business specialties: Insurance | Rankings | US News

Walker's Dem predecessor Doyle did nothing about the teachers' union's abusive overcharges for insurance for 8 years, costing taxpayers a minimum of an extra $400 million. Walker was elected by the WI taxpayers to end this and other public employee union abuses.

Sure, the unions are screaming about having this cash cow taken away, an extra $50-68 million per year is a nice take, wouldn't you say?

Walker is trying to make sure the union won't be able to scam and rip off the WI taxpayers anymore.
This is exactly the same except the opening question that you posted on another thread about a supposed bomb threat (which was off topic by the way), what's the matter running out of material
Casper
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Scott Walker recognizes the need for fiscal responsibility. This concept is foreign to many democratic legislators. I seriously doubt this is the end of the GOP.
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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This is exactly the same except the opening question that you posted on another thread about a supposed bomb threat (which was off topic by the way), what's the matter running out of material
Casper
It wasn't off topic. Unions take their money very seriously. The teachers' union is about to lose the $50-68 million per year they've been scamming from the WI taxpayers, and it's not surprising that they would incite their useful idiot supporters to violence to try to prevent that.

AND, the more people that see the truth, the better.

And since it's blatantly obvious that you all don't bother seeking the facts and just parrot the talking points you've been spoon-fed, I'll recap:
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The teachers' health insurance benefits have been a costly problem in WI since at least 2000 when an Insurance and Risk Managenement Assoc. Prof at UW-Madison* (state employee, no less) and an independent Insurance and Risk Management consultant examined the issue and found that the teachers' union's insurance company, the Wisconsin Education Association's Ins Corp, was overcharging by $50 million per year back then. The current estimate is that they are overcharging WI taxpayers $68 million per year.
http://www.wpri.org/Reports/Volume13/Vol13no8.pdf

*UW-Madison has a stellar Insurance and Risk Management Dept. consistently ranked in the top 5 nationwide - current ranking is 4th.
Undergraduate business specialties: Insurance | Rankings | US News

Walker's Dem predecessor Doyle did nothing about the teachers' union's abusive overcharges for insurance for 8 years, costing taxpayers a minimum of an extra $400 million. Walker was elected by the WI taxpayers to end this and other public employee union abuses.

Sure, the unions are screaming about having this cash cow taken away, an extra $50-68 million per year is a nice take, wouldn't you say?

Walker is trying to make sure the union won't be able to scam and rip off the WI taxpayers anymore.
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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I don't think the Federal Government has ANY role in Education; the Federal Gov't is supposed to protect us from foreign invaders and tend to issues that the States CANNOT do themselves. Why is the Federal Government over $14 trillion in debt, with another $1.6 trillion added every year? Because it tries to take over and control every aspect of it's own responsibilities PLUS those of State and Local Government below. They have their own massive taxing power. The Federal Government should NEVER have been give the power to tax incomes, in direct opposition of the mandates of the Founding Fathers. Federal Government can NEVER be brought under control while it wields this immense power; it must be reduced to SANE levels by reducing it's power to raise money back to what was originally stipulated: the power to levy tariffs, thereby protecting American industry as the same time that it raises money for it's LIMITED activities.

Education is the responsibllity of the LOCAL level, and it is bad enough that States have gotten involved and bankrupted themselves in the process. How many levels of bankrupt government can the few taxpayers left afford to finance? This family is tapped out, and we'll be out of the government cash-cow business in a couple of years anyway. I hope the people who will be targeted to pay for government excess in the future smarten up and reform the Republican Party to be much more Libertarian than Religious Right Theocracy.
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:41 PM
 
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Scott Walker recognizes the need for fiscal responsibility. This concept is foreign to many democratic legislators. I seriously doubt this is the end of the GOP.
Walker recognizes that if he delivers Wisconsin to the Kochs, he will be held in high esteem by them and be provided funding for his future political plans, period. That is all he understands about this, that is all he cares about this.
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:44 PM
 
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It wasn't off topic. Unions take their money very seriously. The teachers' union is about to lose the $50-68 million per year they've been scamming from the WI taxpayers, and it's not surprising that they would incite their useful idiot supporters to violence to try to prevent that.

AND, the more people that see the truth, the better.

And since it's blatantly obvious that you all don't bother seeking the facts and just parrot the talking points you've been spoon-fed, I'll recap:
In other words you do not care if it was off topic and your reply is to just repeat the same thing for a third time? As I said you are out of new material, maybe on Monday your handlers will send you some updated things to spread.
Casper
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:47 PM
 
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Walker recognizes that if he delivers Wisconsin to the Kochs, he will be held in high esteem by them and be provided funding for his future political plans, period. That is all he understands about this, that is all he cares about this.
What if forgets is that in the process of doing his masters bidding the voters are getting POed and come election time no amount of money will save his job. Who knows maybe he will try running for President, fail and then retire from politics and go work openly for the Kochs as his reward.
Casper
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:52 PM
 
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Walker recognizes that if he delivers Wisconsin to the Kochs, he will be held in high esteem by them and be provided funding for his future political plans, period. That is all he understands about this, that is all he cares about this.
Your opinion of the man and only your opinion. Not a fact.
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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In other words you do not care if it was off topic
It wasn't off topic. Unions take their money very seriously. Didn't you see their overly-aggressive temper tantrum in Madison?
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Old 03-05-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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Since the Kochs are such a focus of hatred I think they should run in tandem for the Presidency. lol
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