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Old 03-01-2011, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Smokers need not apply at hospital network starting Tuesday | KING5.com | Seattle News, Breaking News, Weather

As of Tuesday, applicants who have been offered jobs, will be tested for nicotine use.

Nicotine will be added to the list of banned subtances detectable in urine tests, like marijuana and cocaine.

"We cannot in good conscience simultaneously be a champion for healthy communities and continue to hire people who smoke and use tobacco products," said Franciscan Chief Operating Officer Cliff Robertson, MD.

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Interesting.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:54 PM
 
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Maybe because they stink.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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Good. Next the hospital should get rid of any employees with a BMI above 28.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Smokers need not apply at hospital network starting Tuesday | KING5.com | Seattle News, Breaking News, Weather

As of Tuesday, applicants who have been offered jobs, will be tested for nicotine use.

Nicotine will be added to the list of banned subtances detectable in urine tests, like marijuana and cocaine.

"We cannot in good conscience simultaneously be a champion for healthy communities and continue to hire people who smoke and use tobacco products," said Franciscan Chief Operating Officer Cliff Robertson, MD.

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Interesting.
Ridiculous. How about the overwieght, or those who like fried foods or how about those who speed or use tanning beds?
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Isn't that discrimination ?
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:01 PM
 
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Being overweight won't hurt patients unless you fall on them or something which is highly unlikely.... we know cigarette smoking doesn't involve just "you" when you light up and in terms of the hospital, that is probably one of the worst places to light up outside of doing it in the plane... Problem is, there are RULES for no smoking within the building and the premises outside but you know what... patients AND workers continue to violate it... enough of the cat and mouse games... hiding in stairwells to smoke is not stairwells are made for... I get tired of smelling cigarette smoke every time I step out the door to see someone smoking right in front of a no smoking sign and an employee no less... its about dang time...
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:04 PM
 
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They shoud test for alcohol and drug use; a much more endangerig problem;IMO.But I thni thsi has more to do with the cost on insurnace which is also true of the over weight. That is beig addressed by more employers already tho.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:05 PM
 
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Very interesting. I have mixed feelings about it (and I'm not in Seattle, so my opinion counts for nil). On one hand, I applaud it, because so many patients have lung problems that are aggravated by strong smells, including "just had a cigarette" breath. On the other hand, nobody's perfect, and I'd rather be hiring people for their skills rather than their smoking status.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Being overweight won't hurt patients unless you fall on them or something which is highly unlikely.... we know cigarette smoking doesn't involve just "you" when you light up and in terms of the hospital, that is probably one of the worst places to light up outside of doing it in the plane... Problem is, there are RULES for no smoking within the building and the premises outside but you know what... patients AND workers continue to violate it... enough of the cat and mouse games... hiding in stairwells to smoke is not stairwells are made for... I get tired of smelling cigarette smoke every time I step out the door to see someone smoking right in front of a no smoking sign and an employee no less... its about dang time...

No, no, no. You clearly don't understand the issue. This is not a second hand smoke issue. This has to do with the fact a person smokes, not where they smoke.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:08 PM
 
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Being overweight won't hurt patients unless you fall on them or something which is highly unlikely....
Their justification for doing this has nothing to do with the patients health or other people in the building but the health of the employee. If they are justified in banning smokers because they are unhealthy then certainly overweight people or others who lead lifestyles that don't conform to the hospitals rules can be banned.

Smokers are easy targets but there is going to be lot of people that support the banning of smokers that will find themselves on the list of undesirables next.
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