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Old 03-03-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I would like to know how many of you would invest the money and time to become and remain a public school teacher even if you disregarded the current animosity directed at the Teachers of wisconsin?
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:11 AM
 
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Teachers teach because they what they do. NOT because they can belong in a union. Yes, you do have some that become teacher because of the guarantee benefit package that you cannot get any where else.

Honestly, I don't understand why we all public union to form anyway. Call a strike and close down the school. Illegal? Yes. But it happen. At least for the MTA of NYC. They called a strike and the boss they elected didn't prosecute them like the law said.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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I would like to know how many of you would invest the money and time to become and remain a public school teacher even if you disregarded the current animosity directed at the Teachers of wisconsin?
I wish more citizens of character would invested their time and heart into teaching. And not people who have the mind set that they want to be under the car of a union contract.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:29 AM
 
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Hmmmm, I would like to say that teachers teach because that is their calling. And luckily for us, that is exactly why most of them do it.

However, it cannot be disregarded that they get one hell of a sweet retirement package that rivals the police and firemen contracts. In my state, they can retire while still in their fifties for at least half of their salary plus they can then be rehired by same school district at a beginning teachers salary --- my SILs sister is making more money retired than she did gainfully employed. I would love to know what other industries offer retirement packages like that.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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I always thought that most teacher were level headed and wanted to teach.

Now seeing how they have acted recently I believe most of them are just greedy selfish people who want to put the kids last and themselves first.

A new generation of liberal minded teachers over the past 10-15 years is what is changing the dynamic.

The old school teacher would not walk on their students, this new liberal minded teachers will walk on top of the kids to get their greedy hand on something.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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After I returned from 'Nam, in the late 1960's and started college I considered a teaching career. I looked at the realities of teaching (my in-laws both taught at a public high school) and realized I did not want to put the energy into a low paying career. I also considered an academic career and knew I would never be able to survive the BS required for a PhD. Let alone find the money to stay partially employed for that long. I also know myself well enough to realize however much I would enjoy teaching on either level I would not be able to tolerate the pyramid of fools called administration.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:39 AM
 
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A truly dedicated teacher isn't in it for the big money but too bad most teachers aren't in it for the love of teaching kids but for the money and big pensions and very early retirement.
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Gone
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I would like to know how many of you would invest the money and time to become and remain a public school teacher even if you disregarded the current animosity directed at the Teachers of wisconsin?
To make the Big Bucks, at least according to the right-wingers here. Just don't be too disappointed when that does not turn out to be the case.
Casper
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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One of the things that I find amazing (and deserving of a thread in its own right) is the depth and breadth of the campaign against the very people who enable civilised society to function. Civil servants, teachers, professors, scientists. People who are well compensated and highly respected in other parts of the world like Europe and East Asia (coincidentally or not, places with far better education systems). It seems totally counterintuitive to the goal of having an advanced society.

They're seems to be an unchallenged consensus that scientists and professors are elitists and public workers (especially teachers) are lazy leeches. That's really the way to inspire capable people to take such jobs...
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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SD - So you think new teachers are acting just like any privately employed middle manager. Why shouldn't they? Looking out for your self is the mantra of the conservative. IMHO the society had a great deal when k-12 teaching was a ghetto occupied by women willing to accept low pay and respect. Younger women, and men, are not a subservient, and desire to be treated and paid as educated professionals.
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