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Old 03-03-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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No one hates war more than those who fight them.

But I'm not advocating "war" only Spec Ops as advisers.

BTW....my Son also did his part in Iraq, so don't give me that garbage.
Your adult son has nothing to do with you casually calling for others to put their ass on the line for what? Oil?

It's time we focus on solving problems in the US and quit attempting to play world police.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:22 PM
 
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I'm guessing there is a carrier off their coast right right now. If they were to impose a no fly zone it would be almost immediate assuming Qhadaffi and the Libyan military were to accept it and not fire on the aircraft which would open a whole other can of worms.

I know it sounds quick and easy, but I think in reality that it's much more complicated than that.

I was reading about that very topic the other day and it would take a few weeks at the best.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:23 PM
 
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Makes it easy to call for putting someone else's ass on the line, eh?
Exactly! A typical Bush supporter...Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld chickenhawk tactics.

Concerning the OP...if there was anything monetarily in it for Bush&Cronies, Inc, they would stick their greedy big noses into the mix. Cheney would already be having secret meetings dividing up the spoils of war.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:25 PM
 
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Your adult son has nothing to do with you casually calling for others to put their ass on the line for what? Oil?

It's time we focus on solving problems in the US and quit attempting to play world police.

I've already stated that it wouldn't be for the oil except for what would happen to the entire world economy (there's more nations in the world than the USA who would also suffer).

I'm talking about doing it to help the PEOPLE and cut down the bloodshed.

The refugees are piling up at the border. Mercenaries are murdering unarmed people.

They want Democracy......so spare some Spec Ops and help them!
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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So your plan is to simply allow refugees to die and innocent unarmed civilians to be murdered?

How compassionate!
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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I've already stated that it wouldn't be for the oil except for what would happen to the entire world economy (there's more nations in the world than the USA who would also suffer).

I'm talking about doing it to help the PEOPLE and cut down the bloodshed.

The refugees are piling up at the border. Mercenaries are murdering unarmed people.

They want Democracy......so spare some Spec Ops and help them!
Where does the Constitution mandate WE are responsible for bringing democracy to other countries?

We have more than enough problems of our own right now.

The time to go after Gaddaffi was when his involvement in the bombing of PanAm 103 became known, we allowed him to buy his way free of guilt instead.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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So your plan is to simply allow refugees to die and innocent unarmed civilians to be murdered?

How compassionate!
Do you not know there are very preventable deaths in the US everyday?

Why is it people are so willing to go halfway around the world to help others while the mere mention of helping Americans elicits cries of SOCIALISM! ?
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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Where does the Constitution mandate WE are responsible for bringing democracy to other countries?

We have more than enough problems of our own right now.

The time to go after Gaddaffi was when his involvement in the bombing of PanAm 103 became known, we allowed him to buy his way free of guilt instead.

There is no mandate of course. But there was no mandate to get involved in Kosovo or Beirut either.

You seem to be very nonchalant about the plight of the refugees and innocent civilians.

Sending in a small force of Spec Ops isn't overextending ourselves at all. Especially if they get a no-fly zone and can call in precision strikes.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:40 PM
 
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Do you not know there are very preventable deaths in the US everyday?

Why is it people are so willing to go halfway around the world to help others while the mere mention of helping Americans elicits cries of SOCIALISM! ?

I have no problem helping those who cannot help themselves or are in dire straights through no fault of their own.

But I hate to break this to you.....there will ALWAYS be preventable deaths and there will ALWAYS be people who are poorer than the next guy.

Those who wait for the government to bail them out of trouble need a lesson in self-preservation.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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There is no mandate of course. But there was no mandate to get involved in Kosovo or Beirut either.

You seem to be very nonchalant about the plight of the refugees and innocent civilians.
As you seem very nonchalant about involving the US in another armed conflict.


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Sending in a small force of Spec Ops isn't overextending ourselves at all. Especially if they get a no-fly zone and can call in precision strikes.
And WHO will be responsible for maintaining a NO-FLY zone?

It will never cease to amaze me how willing the right is to conduct the redistribution of wealth they constantly whine about just as long as that redistribution doesn't take place domestically
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