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Old 03-04-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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Just won't ease up on that death grip you have on this false poll eh?
No--Frank Luntz (a radical right wing spin doctor) and the Media Research Center (another far right group) say the polls aren't valid because they used the term "employee" vs. "worker"--that when the term "worker" is used the polling numbers should go down. Just which do you think is a more accurate description of college educated nurses, teachers, firefighters, and police officers--employees or workers? That's insulting to the people who pick careers in public service, and you know it. My husband is an attorney who spent time working for state government--was he an "employee" or a "worker?"

I know the far right is trying to spin this into making it an "us against them" issue, but most people like the folks they know in those professions, and they value the job they do, and the sacrifices they make for our communities. Trying to downplay their value just ticks people off more--if they're trying to win a PR war with this by calling them "workers" (like they're being paid to pick peas or something) it's a loser strategy. That tells me the R's are desperate on this one.

I'm sure the far right is trying to spin this as hard as they can, because the truth is that the numbers aren't on their side and they know it. Even the Rasmussen poll kept phrasing questions with "state unions" and "public employee unions" in an attempt to make this a union issues vs. an issue of fairness for public employees, and the polling still didn't come out in their favor.

Sorry folks--you're not going to win this one. I keep saying it, but this is one issue where moderate R's and D's are pretty much in agreement. The far right wing only has around 30% of the vote, and it's showing on this one.

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Old 03-04-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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There once was the GOP,
who relied on a poll or three,
when polls weren't in their favor,
and folks sided with labor,
they said, "This poll's a lie, can't you see?"
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why do we care about polls and what people think anyway?
If the majority of people think it's a good idea to stab themselves in the eyeball and dance naked in a tub of salsa, that still doesn't make something a good idea (or a bad idea).
Given some of the crazy things the general population believes, I put no weight or credibility on what some poll says.
I am guessing those who like polls like the fact that the outcomes (real or faked) will cause many people to go along bc they want to be like everyone else.
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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There once was the GOP,
who relied on a poll or three,
when polls weren't in their favor,
and folks sided with labor,
they said, "This poll's a lie, can't you see?"
I wish I could give you 10x for this one, lol! Very clever...
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