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Old 03-05-2011, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Actually the improvement in the UE rate over the last 3 months is the best 3 month change since 1983!!!!



Ken

Or since we last had a real president.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:49 AM
 
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406,000 is a quarter of one percent of the total workforce (154,000,000).

Congratulations?




"which is a LOT better than any 3 month period in the last 3 years or so"


Do you mean at any time since Democrats took over Congress in 2007?[/quote]

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Does your arguement account for the balance sheet Bush turned over to Obama in Jan. 2008?


Do you mean this one?

Gallup: February Unemployment Hits 10.3%-78.png
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:38 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Lightbulb My gosh!

The right wing negative spin on the better than expected Feb unemployment figures is almost enough to negate the Correolis Effect!

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O Wizened One, the BLS data is a telephone poll, which makes you sound quite silly and demonstrates you don't understand the process.

I would point out that because Clinton changed how unemployment was calculated in in 1994 to save his ass in the '96 Election, once someone gets discouraged and stops looking for work, or is forced to take a part time job because no full time jobs are available, they are no longer counted as unemployed.
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no.. try following the thread.. I was discussing inflation.. but now that you point out unemployment rate is dropping, we also said that.. we said for ages that the minute you extend the tax cuts, unemployment would drop.. The only reason it was rising is because companies are proactive and will lay people off BEFORE the tax cuts kick in, and when they are passed, they will fill vacancies..

Keep posting links validating I'm accurate.. My threads here are very public, you can go back a year and see that I said this exact same thing.. I've been VERY consistant on the matters..
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I think you really need to understand how that index is computed and what is and what is not included.

For example, in an extreme hypothetical, if ALL people polled were"discouraged" or "stopped looking" for work, the unemployment index would read 0%. Would you then say that everyone in this country was employed? On the other hand, if everyone polled indicated that they were actively looking for work and couldn't find it, the unemployment index would rate extremely high, skewing the interpretation to the other extreme.

And finally, how many times have the jobs numbers been "modified", "corrected", etc. 2-3 months down the road? I still do not know why people put stock in these numbers like this, in either direction (gains or losses).
Thank you for your negativity and hyperpartisanship, various economic "scholars"...
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:37 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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haha.. you pretend that "NET" only applies to yearly and not monthly.. dont worry, I'm laughing again at you.. NET indeed can apply to MONTHLY statistics, which again was what we were discussing.. I even QUOTED the parts.. Heck I even said since the GOP took over Congress, which took place months ago.. why would you turn the topic over to "yearly".. You didnt.. you meant monthly, dont worry I know you did.. thats ok.. you made a mistake because clearly MONTHLY, there was no increase over the past year like you claimed..
Oh give me a break. It's OBVIOUS what I meant.

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Old 03-05-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Or since we last had a real president.
Good to know you don't think the 2 Bush's were "real" Presidents. I certainly agree with you about Bush 43.



Ken
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Actually the improvement in the UE rate over the last 3 months is the best 3 month change since 1983!!!!



Ken
Due mainly to a revision,not an actual drop in the unemployed....
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Old 03-05-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Due mainly to a revision,not an actual drop in the unemployed....
Still sore?

good news is bad

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Old 03-05-2011, 09:51 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Due mainly to a revision,not an actual drop in the unemployed....
Revisions simply reflect that fact that NOT ALL THE DATA is in place when the initial report is released. As the remaining data comes in the numbers are changed to reflect the more complete picture.

Ken
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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There are still people who want to believe the Repub efforts to stop job growth are working, when clearly they are not.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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Oh give me a break. It's OBVIOUS what I meant
Not its not.. you changed the period of timeline being used and made claims that were false..

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