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Old 03-04-2011, 11:31 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This is funny because Michele Bachman a Tea Party favorite received over $250,000 in federal farm subsidies over 10 years.

Bachmann Farm Reaped $252K in Gov't Subsidies

Yet another example of Conservative hypocrisy at its absolute finest.




Funny thing is, it is the government telling them they cannot grow anything on their own private property!!! Why is that?

Subsidized properties would profit 5-10 times more than what subsidies pay, if they were not told and paid not to grow food for the USA.

Crop insurance pays more than subsidies.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Why do Republicans like Michele Bachmann accept SOCIALIST! handouts like farm subsidies paid for with other people's money?


She has property that the government does not want farmed.
She would make more profit if she was able to farm it.

But because she is not allowed, there has to be compensation. That is only fair. Property is a big investment and income generator in farm and ranch country(something city folk will never ever understand), where you actually work your land as your job.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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Why do Republicans feel entitled to other people's relationships or bodies?
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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A lot of people just feel that if government takes it it's not stealing. And from there dozens of arguments come... "the rich wouldn't be rich if it werent for the government and taxes", "everyone has a right to the basic necessities of life", "everyone has a right to the basic necessities of life + 1", "everyone has a right to the basic necessities of life + 1 + 1", "everyone has a right to the basic necessities of life + 1 + 1 + 1", etc.
Are you talking about rights like in Constitutional rights? If so, I have to disagree with you because those are not rights of anyone. Nobody can be caused to pay for those basic necessities for others. No, someone has to do that for those who can't but it is politically wrong to force anyone to pay for those necessities. I am sorry but everyone has a right to earn the where withall to buy those things but nobody has a right to be hauled through life by others.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Why do Republicans feel entitled to other people's relationships or bodies?
This republican supports legalized prostitution and decriminalization of almost all drugs.
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Old 03-04-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Is the OP ignorant or just disingenuous? The GOP feels entitled to other people's money as well. "Taking other people's money" is a price you pay to live in a civilized society. If you want anarchy move to Somalia. But taxes are a necessary evil to live in a first world country.
No it isn't. You can by-pass that with consumption taxes.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Which 'public sector' employees do you speak of ?
Police ?
Fire ?
Teachers that TRY to educate your monster child(ren)?
Garbage Collectors?
Street Crews ?
You know what you get when you pay your employees poorly ?
Poor employees, and I don't mean financially.
YES, in some cases the system protects those that should be fired but this goes on in private non-union businesses too.
New York City never has any trouble with their public employee unions, do they? Ask them about huge piles of garbage that sometimes manage to get the union things they want. Ask them about the snowstorms of 2011.

I don't care for unionization of even the public protectors because of what happens with them but I just don't like what happened in states like Wisconsin where they pay nothing into their pensions or healthcare. That is not right for the police or the firefighters either.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Why do Republicans like Michele Bachmann accept SOCIALIST! handouts like farm subsidies paid for with other people's money?
Go ahead and admit that you don't know anything about farm subsidies and why we have them. Maybe you need to look into what the EU does with their farmers in order for them to compete with others and then maybe you could understand why we do the same thing. You don't know much about those things here or in Europe other than what your socialist type people tell you, I think.
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Old 03-04-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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But............................................

NOT ONE of those union contracts was signed by only one party. What I don't see is these alleged saviors of the country like Christie of NJ going after the parties that signed the other side of those contracts. Blaming unions is the easy way out, they take what they are given, the givers must share the blame.
Finally you are right about the sharing, but what did the unions do or threaten to do to get those politicians, of both parties, to give them pensions paid for by the taxpayers only? In my state the state workers have a good pension system, not as good as in Wisconsin, but not bad however they pay into it all the time they are employed and the system is not broke right now so maybe asking those people to pay a tiny amount of their pension money isn't so wrong.
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: NC
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You could ask the same thing about Republicans. There is a massive uprising in one of the largest oil producers in the world, yet they feel entitled to have their gasoline prices stay the same via subsidies either in the form of military intervention, or subsidies to big oil.
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