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Old 03-04-2011, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Earth
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No, those are distinctly named continents North America and South America. If you refer to them both, they are the Americas. America on the other hand refers to the United States. Any deviation from this is nonsensical, or at least not mainstream.

Would you go around saying Obama is the "United Statesian" president?
I stand corrected on the first part.
I say that Obama is the duly elected US president.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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You can call a skunk a cat. It's still a skunk.
We put & label American on many things.
Why not the language?
Would it be anti American?
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Why is it dumb?

Please explain why?
Because we didn't create it. The English did.

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We still reserve the right to call it American
Cats. Skunks.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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We put & label American on many things.
And sometimes the label is warranted.

For the language? Not so much.

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Why not the language?
Because it would be dumb.

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Would it be anti American?
No. It would be jingoistic , oblivious and absurd.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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Because we didn't create it. The English did.


Cats. Skunks.
English is Germanic.....
And also derives from Latin.
So your point does not hold.

Cats.Skunks is a poor illustration.

We still reserve the right
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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English is Germanic.....
And yet... it is not German.

That's a different language.

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And also derives from Latin.
Well, it gets most of its Latin influence from French (which is not Latin).

And yet... English is not Latin, and it is not French.

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So your point does not hold.
Of course my point holds.

The English language that we speak today was created by the English in England.

Not in America by Americans.

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Cats.Skunks is a poor illustration.
I guess if you can't tell them apart, maybe. For the rest of us, it serves quite well.

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We still reserve the right
Who's we?"

You have a mouse in your pocket?

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Old 03-04-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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We still reserve the right to call it American
Nobody is stopping you. Language is a completely free market
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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No, those are distinctly named continents North America and South America. If you refer to them both, they are the Americas. America on the other hand refers to the United States. Any deviation from this is nonsensical, or at least not mainstream.

Would you go around saying Obama is the "United Statesian" president?
<snerk!> That's hilarious. Insert 'ian' and you get to make it sound ridiculous, when in fact, President Obama is the "United States President".

Tell me, which one is correct?

The President of the United States

or

The President of America

I guaranfriggintee you, that if any liberal or Democrat actually called him the President of America, you rightwingers would be freaking the hell out, as if we were trying to make him president of the world or something.

There is no such thing as an "American" language. In the various countries throughout the Americas, as has been stated multiple times in this thread, English isn't the only language spoken. In fact, it's not even the most common language spoken!
  • Spanish: spoken by approximately 310 million in many nations throughout the continent, being the de iure or de facto official language of all the Hispanic American countries.
  • English: spoken by approximately 300 million people in the United States, Canada, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, The Bahamas, Bermuda, Belize, Guyana, the Falklands and many islands of the Caribbean.
  • Portuguese: spoken by approximately 185 million in South America, mostly Brazil
  • French: spoken by approximately 12 million in Canada (majority 7 million in Québec—see also Québec French—and Acadian communities in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia); the Caribbean (Haiti, Guadeloupe, Martinique); French Guiana; the French islands of Saint Pierre and Miquelon; and Acadiana (a Francophone area in southern Louisiana, United States).
  • Quechua: native language spoken by 10–13 million speakers in Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, northern Chile, and northwest Argentina.
  • Haitian Creole: creole language, based in French and various African languages, spoken by 6 million in Haiti and the Haitian diaspora in Canada and the United States.
  • Guaraní (avañe'ẽ): native language spoken by approximately 6 million people in Paraguay, and regions of Argentina, Bolivia, and Brazil.
<snip>
Americas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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You can call a skunk a cat. It's still a skunk.
Bwaaaahahahahaha! This reminds me of an ooooooooooooold joke from a book I had when I was, like, 7 or 8 years old. It goes like this:

How many legs does a dog have, if you call a tail a leg?







































































Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:21 AM
 
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<snerk!> That's hilarious. Insert 'ian' and you get to make it sound ridiculous, when in fact, President Obama is the "United States President".

Tell me, which one is correct?

The President of the United States

or

The President of America

I guaranfriggintee you, that if any liberal or Democrat actually called him the President of America, you rightwingers would be freaking the hell out, as if we were trying to make him president of the world or something.

There is no such thing as an "American" language. In the various countries throughout the Americas, as has been stated multiple times in this thread, English isn't the only language spoken. In fact, it's not even the most common language spoken!
  • Spanish: spoken by approximately 310 million in many nations throughout the continent, being the de iure or de facto official language of all the Hispanic American countries.
  • English: spoken by approximately 300 million people in the United States, Canada, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, The Bahamas, Bermuda, Belize, Guyana, the Falklands and many islands of the Caribbean.
  • Portuguese: spoken by approximately 185 million in South America, mostly Brazil
  • French: spoken by approximately 12 million in Canada (majority 7 million in Québec—see also Québec French—and Acadian communities in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia); the Caribbean (Haiti, Guadeloupe, Martinique); French Guiana; the French islands of Saint Pierre and Miquelon; and Acadiana (a Francophone area in southern Louisiana, United States).
  • Quechua: native language spoken by 10–13 million speakers in Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, northern Chile, and northwest Argentina.
  • Haitian Creole: creole language, based in French and various African languages, spoken by 6 million in Haiti and the Haitian diaspora in Canada and the United States.
  • Guaraní (avañe'ẽ): native language spoken by approximately 6 million people in Paraguay, and regions of Argentina, Bolivia, and Brazil.
<snip>
Americas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In Many countries that have the language named after their country, there are many other languages spoken. So your point does not prove much.

A country can choose what language it wants to call its language.

In The USA we are called Americans. We can choose to call the English lingo American.
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