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Old 03-07-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro
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I don't buy the conservative line that the government is the enemy. The corporations are the enemy. The government is (in theory) of the people, by the people and FOR the people. Today, it's more like "of the rich, by the rich and for the rich."

I think we should throw out the free market system, not try to manipulate it through boycotts.
Instead, you think it should be manipulated by gov't regulation.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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Instead, you think it should be manipulated by gov't regulation.
It already is.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:51 AM
 
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Another happy slave defending his master. Good boy!!! You've been trained well!!

You can't go to Cuba ... you aren't allowed ... SLAVE. And don't let us catch you smoking one of those Cuban cigars either ... or you will be sent to bed without dinner.
You mean cuba doesn't have open borders? That's just so mean of them.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: 22 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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It already is.
yes by fascist overregulating globalist progressive liberals
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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What we have today is Crony Capitalism.

And the primary role of government is to protect people's rights.....so we don't have a "Lord of the Flies" environment.
Actually, no. Bill of rights was added as an amendment to the constitution, and only to ensure the powers granted didn't take away people's rights. The role of the government was defined well before that, including regulation of commerce.

And corporations were meant to be kept on a short leash, at the time by states since they issued strict charters (a reason, Madison/Jefferson proposal of an amendment to regulate and prevent monopolies was not implemented since similar laws existed at state level at the time). That many people think that the founders were for free ride to corporations is amazing. Having fought against the interests of mega corporations for freedom, they knew better.
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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The Capitalist machine
The Capitalist Machine radiates brightly, it glows brilliantly, flashing seductively in vivid colors, it makes a dazzling variety of sounds; chugging, puffing, screeching, humming, roaring, blasting, crunching. The Machine manipulates the senses; creating obsessive desires for materialism, status and envy; it stimulates smug snobbery and belligerent patriotism; it manufactures pride, prisons, prestige, and admiration. With a disdain for imagination, creativity, imagination, and individual thinking The Machine entertains mindlessly.
The Machine lures with luxury comfort promises, cries crocodile tears at human misfortune, and demands submission from living sacrifices to labor heavily from all demands. The Machine is composed of many parts, all of which, from a young age, are conditioned as martyrs to function for the servitude of the Machine as their primary objective of existence. Worn down and broken parts, no longer useful to the Machine, are quickly replaced, discarded, and instantly removed from memory.
The Machine sanctifies exploitation and military might; it utilizes the most advanced technology, invents moral authority for its own benefit, and sometimes bestows rewards for worship of itself, obedience, greed, loyalty and conformism. The Machine abhors criticism and scrutiny of its ethics, aggressively vilifying, ostracizing, demonizing and threatening eternal Hell punishment for all opposition. The Machine, although jealous and vain, tolerates almost everything, except insubordination, stubborn components, disloyalty, and anything which has the potential to grow into an obstacle. The Machine prefers persuasion, but will apply brutal force if necessary.
The omnipotent Machine reigns supreme, itís unstoppable; no one is in control, it has no goals, other than to constantly increase in size and power. The Machine races recklessly in every direction possible, justifying its right to break, maim, and continually spit out various poisons.
The Machine attempts to put a price tag on everything. The Machine never sleeps, itís an always hungry omnivore, its fangs and entrails consume ever greater amounts of wood, rock, water, metal, gas, mineral, flesh, oil, coal, bones, minds, muscle, air, blood, vegetation, and the future; yet it remains hollow.
The Machine is self-serving, perverts human instincts, crushes spirituality and has no soul, but is proudly and vigorously defended by religion which greases the wheels to ensure smooth, unhindered operation of our most Sacred God.
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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yes by fascist overregulating globalist progressive liberals
Yet you make no mention of Republicans that are basically corporate stooges.

How much more in the pocket of a corporations can you be when you have Congress people like Rep. Joe Barton actually apologizes to the oil and gas corporations after the BP oil spill.

Where's you outrage?

Or has it been brought and paid for too?
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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You are correct ... the system is a total fraud, from top to bottom. It didn't start out that way, but over the course of the 100 years ... since the international gangsters conspired to bribe it's way into control of the US Financial system, and ultimately gained total control of government because of their monopoly on currency, banking and global finance, we have what can only be described as "financial slavery" operating by means of a ponzi scheme.

Not many people in this country understand what is going on because they have been lied to their entire lives ... kindergarten through PhD. Free markets cannot possibly exist when the creation and flow of currency is controlled by monopoly men.

And, unless you are one of them ... you are their SLAVE, PERIOD. The majority are "field slaves" .... your typical employed worker. Then you have more privileged class slaves who come in the form of small business owners and entrepreneurs. The field slave ... the employee does what he is told to do .... which now includes peeing in a cup to be internally analyzed by your potential "slave boss". You are allowed to work your 40, 50, 60+ hours, and at the end of the period, you get a piece of paper which you can then redeem at the bank for more worthless pieces of paper (less deductions taken automatically by your overlords ... who are literally telling you that they own you by taking a portion of what you worked for). Then you get to pay for your "room and board" with the money you are allowed to keep, with most of that going back to those that run the system who also own the corporations that distribute the food, the clothing, the entertainment, the gadgets, the cars, the booze, the cigarettes. And they watch you closely. Cameras set up in public to watch your movements ... phone calls and emails monitored .... purchases tracked .... and fees collected to pay for your own enslavement. Vehicle registrations, inspections, insurance, driver licenses, fishing licenses, hunting permits, building permits, vendor permits, fees, fees, and more fees. You cannot "spit" without a "permit". Travel? You have to have your ID ... Travel by Air, they get to physically molest you and your family, strip search you, and show you who's boss. THEY OWN YOU .... which now also includes the air you breathe ... or more accurately, the CO2 that you exhale.

Someone calls in a tip, saying you have drugs in your home, the SWAT team arrives, kicks in your door, shoots your family dog, and if they find a banned substance, they can take everything. If they find nothing ... well, tough .... sorry bout the dog, he he ha ha.

You have children? YOU WILL HAVE THEM INJECTED WITH POISONS. You will send them to school to be trained like you were, so that they can then take your place on the plantation when you're too old to get anymore usefulness out of you. And it's all been recorded .... at birth, they take their sample of blood to catalog your DNA ... assign you an inventory control number (Social Security), and offer you as collateral to the overlords, with estimates of how much you will produce based on your estimated life span.

You're free !!! .... that's what you are told .... the reality is, you are free to do as you are told, and believe what you are told, or suffer the consequences for non-compliance.
...great post! It is so sad to see "the usual suspects" in this thread trying to move Heaven and Earth to defend their slave masters.
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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GuyinTexas and visvaldis have said all that needs to be said. Now, is any one listening?
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Old 03-07-2011, 12:53 PM
 
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Because the monopolies they created to assure their wealth took money from everyone else just as if they were a government they imposed on us. Their money was not earned it was stolen.
Then why are you sitting there with Microsoft in your home? (just asking for sake of the argument at hand)
When people purchase a product, they are showing their support, for that company and for what that company has to offer them, and they enable the company to continue to produce their product.

Then the people are going to do a come back and say, that company is too big, or that person is making to much money---why is that exactly?

The power of the consumer, helped them to achieve their goals and have compensated them for the efforts.

The consumer can not only make the company, they can also break the company, but in order to break that company, the consumer(s) must change their spending habits. In this I see no willingness to do. So now what?
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