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Old 03-08-2011, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Then move to a country where socialism prevails. So you can be a number and a cost factor.
I hope he'll be happy in either Laos, North Korea, PR of China or Vietman. Those are the last four.

Venezuela... isn't that really a dictatorship disguised as a socialist state? HA... I rest my case, the perfect example of what a socialist state becomes.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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Yes, some are. How much worth does Hitler have? In your mind? Charlie Manson?



Then move to a country where socialism prevails. So you can be a number and a cost factor and happily live like everyone else around you. No expectations for anything other than someone else taking care of what you don't want to.
No, they don't want to move. They crave for socialism but don't want to give up all the amenities that capitalism has to offer.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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You've confused Chile with Argentina.
I think you're right.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Some T-1 Line
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Which one of those you mentioned is where the government comes and pays them for making mistakes?
I am truly not understanding your question. Please rephrase or clarify; unless this is rhetorical. Thank you.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Back in the Southland
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If fox news gets a hold of this thread they will call it anti-American. anyways, socialism takes away the American Dream, which is one of the main reasons why so many immigrants come here. To start fresh and try to make it big in a free trade capitalistic society. It inspires people and gives people hope that if you work hard, you can gain wealth.

The goal of capitalism is not make the rich get richer and the poor poorer. It is to allow anyone from all backgrounds the capability of making it big. This desire promotes hard work, you can't find this desire in a socialist country because 80%(Scandinavian and norther European countries)of your income goes to taxes which in turn feeds into welfare and foodstamps. So if you are lazy you can still be fed and given money.

Capitalism is abused, but that abuse is people taking advantage of the opportunities given them. I do not like that many large corporations do that but because we live in a free economic country they can. I would much rather prefer that they keep jobs in America and I try to buy American goods instead of Chinese but it is hard. If you don't like living in America because of its capitalistic economy than I suggest that you move to a nice country in Europe. Unlike me you will probably enjoy living in a socialistic society.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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I'm done with this discussion.

It's hard to "just move" because this is home for me. Would you "just move" if Obama won again and the Dems got a supermajority in congress in 2014?
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:13 PM
 
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I hope he'll be happy in either Laos, North Korea, PR of China or Vietman. Those are the last four.

Venezuela... isn't that really a dictatorship disguised as a socialist state? HA... I rest my case, the perfect example of what a socialist state becomes.
People like that want to see socialism established here in the US. It's a "stick it to the man" mentality.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:21 PM
 
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I'm done with this discussion.

It's hard to "just move" because this is home for me. Would you "just move" if Obama won again and the Dems got a supermajority in congress in 2014?
Yes, if Obama has it his way, you sure won't need to move.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Back in the Southland
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I'm done with this discussion.

It's hard to "just move" because this is home for me. Would you "just move" if Obama won again and the Dems got a supermajority in congress in 2014?
no because 1. Obama won't win again unless he does a major overhaul 2. Obama can try all he wants to make this a socialistic society but it won't happen. Some things might change but not enough to make a large difference. 3. I don't care if the dems are in power just as long as the economy is fixed, besides I tend to like dems more than republicans, Bill Maher is a funny dude
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:33 PM
 
Location: SELA
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Capitalism sucks. Period. I know that may sound shocking, but it's true -- at least of unregulated, laissez-faire "free market" capitalism.
It's not, if only for the reason that unregulated, laissez-faire "free market" capitalism is a utopian fantasy with no record of practical implementation. That's why the dichotomy between state and market forces should be rejected as false; in the context of the capitalist economy, state influence bolsters market activity.
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