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Old 03-05-2011, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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we haven't had anything close to capitalism in 70 years, and even then it was not close enough, ... the OP just shows how much knowledge the average person lacks


The definition of Capitalism - is an economic system in which the means of production are privately owned and operated for profit. Decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investment are made within a free market. (from -Capitalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

The definition of a free market - is a market in which there is no economic intervention and regulation by the state, except to enforce private contracts and the ownership of property. (from - Free market - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )



Ya, I'd be embarrassed if I created such an ignorant OP as well.
That is the system I described in the OP. No, the US is not a pure capitalist country, but it's darn close.

Such a system (pure free-market capitalism) is, in my opinion, greed-driven and pure evil.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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You would like everyone to be the same basically?

No wealthy,no really poor,everyone the same.
Basically, yes.

I'm not saying there can't be some variation, but what we have now with the fabulously wealthy and the appallingly poor is unacceptable.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Here
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Basically, yes.
Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:09 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Basically, yes.

I'm not saying there can't be some variation, but what we have now with the fabulously wealthy and the appallingly poor is unacceptable.
Who would everyone work for?

Why would anyone want to have a business?
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:09 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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They all have higher HDI ratios than us, they have healthcare and unlimited unemployment insurance, living wages. No, there are no uber-rich fat-cat billionaires there, but there are also no destitute impoverished people either.

Capitalism = great wealth AND great poverty. A capitalist system cannot work without both of these extremes.
Capitalism is based on reward for effort. It's also based on the FREEDOM to succeed or fail. If I'm successful and you happen to suck at life, what gives you the right to steal my wealth to pay for your economic shortcomings?
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Here
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Who would everyone work for?

Why would anyone want to have a business?
It would be swell. We could all dress alike, live in the same exact houses, drive the same little cars and have jobs making widgets.

Utopia.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Capitalism is based on reward for effort. It's also based on the FREEDOM to succeed or fail. If I'm successful and you happen to suck at life, what gives you the right to steal my wealth to pay for your economic shortcomings?
That is just right-wing propaganda. No one "sucks at life," people just have different abilities.We all have a responsibility to take care of each other. It's not "stealing," it's social responsibility. You'd rather see people starve in the streets?

And conservatism is supposed to be the Christian viewpoint?
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:14 PM
 
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It would be swell. We could all dress alike, live in the same exact houses, drive the same little cars and have jobs making widgets.

Utopia.
No cars, those would be for the ruling class.
We'd ride trains like cattle and ride bicycles on mud rutted roads.
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:14 PM
 
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That is the system I described in the OP. No, the US is not a pure capitalist country, but it's darn close.

Such a system (pure free-market capitalism) is, in my opinion, greed-driven and pure evil.
Pure capitalist society?? When did you become the non-capitalist expert? Because what you said was completely and UTTERLY wrong... we have a corporatist society.... its nice to blame something you don't even really understand...
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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I give up. There's no use trying to argue this here. Good night, and have a nice weekend.
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