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Old 03-09-2011, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Austin
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This would create a corporate-fascist, neo-feudalist oligarchy. Under these rules, there would be two types of people: the super-rich politicians and corporate executives, and the destitute "serfs" living on pennies per day. Welcome to the Dark Ages.
You are entitled to your opinion even if it's silly.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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I'm not an extreme leftist or a socialist, and I'm certainly not a communist. I just support economic reform and fiscal democracy. Yes, we need regulations. Regulations, like laws, protect freedom, not take it away.
You're hilarious. Oh wait, you're serious.....
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Austin
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If you think government only has the role of a referee and without the ability to actually regulate anything, you would be one of those free marketeers opposed to government regulating via strict charters. This contradicts with your previous support, that regulations are authoritarian. Are you sure you're up for strict regulations on corporations? Or, would that be authoritarian?
A free market does not mean no regulation at all. Some regulation is needed to ensure that we have a level playing field.

But today, we have overwhelming regulation and a huge portion of those regulations should be removed.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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You're hilarious. Oh wait, you're serious.....
Please. What purpose do childish comments like this serve?

I said regulations improve freedom. You disagree. Why do you have to resort to personal attacks?
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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A free market does not mean no regulation at all. Some regulation is needed to ensure that we have a level playing field.
My point exactly. This was the whole point of my posts -- level the playing field through economic regulation. I'm not saying let's turn into Soviet Russia or North Korea!

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But today, we have overwhelming regulation and a huge portion of those regulations should be removed.
We don't have nearly enough regulation. We need to, at a minimum, return to the way things were pre-Reagan. Going back to FDR's economic and tax system would be even better.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Some T-1 Line
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of course but those that gamed the system did not lose. The executives and managers may have lost some stock value but their cash bonus checks were long cashed. It is a perverse incentive for executives.



sure, the lawyers get some upfront fee's, accountants make fee's and the government gets some filing fee's but we the people are pledging our protection to take their risk for no benefit to us forever. The more liability we assume, the higher the fee should be for us to take on their risk.



Hence why i say the dems and gop are the equivalent of pro wrestlers, we are the only ones that think they are actually battling.
damn, i wish i could rep you, again! I like this one.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:39 PM
 
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My point exactly. This was the whole point of my posts -- level the playing field through economic regulation. I'm not saying let's turn into Soviet Russia or North Korea!



We don't have nearly enough regulation. We need to, at a minimum, return to the way things were pre-Reagan. Going back to FDR's economic and tax system would be even better.
A state managed economy is not free.
You speak in contradictory terms.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:41 PM
 
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Most of what you described is set by the market, not by the Fed. The other stuff is dictated by gov't regulations that in a roundabout way, do the things you describe. That is not what the poster was really talking about, he wants direct gov't intrusion on these aspects.
You dramatically underestimate what the FED actually is and does. Hint: the FED is the government. The government you believe you vote for is for entertainment purposes only. Entertainment of the masses .. an illusion of representative government.

The "Market" dictates NOTHING ..... just remember the golden rule ... he who controls the gold, rules.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Some T-1 Line
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I'll be a slave to the rich.

I enjoy making a good living working for successful, wealthy businessmen.

You can depend on the government.
I thought the whole country was up in arms because government workers make twice as much and have Cadillac benefits in addition to ultimate job security; that's all Rush Limbaugh and the rest of private sector talks about.

Those government checks are always on time and guaranteed not to bounce. Ask AIG.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:44 PM
 
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Please. What purpose do childish comments like this serve?

I said regulations improve freedom. You disagree. Why do you have to resort to personal attacks?

You'd been arguing for socialism and then said you were not a socialist. Which is kind of ridiculous. Wouldn't you agree?
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