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"Minority Group
A minority or subordinate group is a sociological group that does not constitute a politicallydominant voting majority of the total population of a given society. A sociological minority is notnecessarily a numerical minority — it may include any group that is subnormal with respect to a dominant group in terms of social status, education, employment, wealth and political power. To avoid confusion, some writers prefer the terms "subordinate group" and "dominant group" rather than "minority" and "majority", respectively.
...Every large society contains ethnic minorities. They may be migrant, indigenous or landless nomadic communities. In some places, subordinate ethnic groups may constitute a numericalmajority, such as Blacks in South Africa under apartheid."
Now that we know that minority ≠ percent of the population, let's continue the discussion.
"Sociologist Louis Wirth defined a minority group as "a group of people who, because of their physical or cultural characteristics, are singled out from the others in the society in which they live for differential and unequal treatment, and who therefore regard themselves as objects of collective discrimination." (see Affirmative Action)
Are you trying to say because Congress is over 80% white and male, the 37% of the population which is also white and male decided to put these particular white males in office over the objections of the 63% who are not white males?
Do these same white males get returned over and over to Congress because they represent the interests of the minority over the objections of the majority?
"Not to mention a U of Chicago study found that White sounding names were more likely to receive a call back regarding an interview than ethnic sounding names."
If true (source?), are you able to prove those with "ethnic sounding" names were more qualified than those with other than ethnic sounding names?
The mere accusation of racism isn't proof of racism and in no way justifies continued state-sanctioned discrimination against a minority group by the majority.
Your ignorance is astounding. I simply pointed out that your accusations of oppression are unfounded. If oppression is actually present in White male, we would expect less White males in positions of power. However, that's not the case. I made no mention of whether oppression goes the other way. The lack of minorities is cause for concern, however, we've seen a significant shift towards a more representative government. I would contend that while there is obviously still racism, it has significantly diminished and now we live in a more class based society (due to previous and continuing forms of racism).
Someone makes an assertion, they provide the link, if asked.
The next poster did provide a link, albeit not a study. But it had credible sources.
There's an interesting problem that wasn't discussed though, minority businesses being woman-owned.
The blog link didn't count, though.
It was, after a blog.
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Originally Posted by stanleyspencer
It's called white guilt and being brainwashed by PC liberals and leftists for decades.
Is that so.
Poor white guys, poor white people.
Last edited by chielgirl; 03-06-2011 at 10:58 PM..
"Sociologist Louis Wirth defined a minority group as "a group of people who, because of their physical or cultural characteristics, are singled out from the others in the society in which they live for differential and unequal treatment, and who therefore regard themselves as objects of collective discrimination." (see Affirmative Action)
Would legacy status at prestigious universities that excluded minorities be a form of AA. This is a real thing. Legacy status is real and benefits more Whites than Blacks, esp. White males.
If AA were displacing Whites, why do African Americans continue to have higher rates of unemployment even with a bachelor's degree or higher. When all things are taken into account (geography, education, experience) Whites have a lower unemployment rate.
This kind of dispels the myth of minorities taking away jobs for qualified Whites. We would expect to see minorities having LOWER unemployment rates, not higher.
Being the only group negatively effected by Affirmative Action isn't institutional racism and sexism?
Love to hear your definition of institutional racism and sexism.
Ok...give me a case of discrimination against you because of your race. Where you were denied an opportunity because you were white, and had no recourse.
"Sociologist Louis Wirth defined a minority group as "a group of people who, because of their physical or cultural characteristics, are singled out from the others in the society in which they live for differential and unequal treatment, and who therefore regard themselves as objects of collective discrimination." (see Affirmative Action)
And these people he's speaking about are underrepresented in their government, and with regard to education, employment, wealth, and the ability to be seen as the default in mainstream culture?
Would legacy status at prestigious universities that excluded minorities be a form of AA. This is a real thing. Legacy status is real and benefits more Whites than Blacks, esp. White males.
If AA were displacing Whites, why do African Americans continue to have higher rates of unemployment even with a bachelor's degree or higher. When all things are taken into account (geography, education, experience) Whites have a lower unemployment rate.
This kind of dispels the myth of minorities taking away jobs for qualified Whites. We would expect to see minorities having LOWER unemployment rates, not higher.
Thank you. What a lot of people don't realize is that white males have had their own Affirmative Action. Hundreds of years of legal discrimination and blatant racism/sexism (let's include homophobia in there as well) that extend even before the founding of this country have given white, straight men a head start that they still hold onto today—whether they want that advantage or not. Racial minorities and women have made some strides to level the playing field, and what the majority is feeling today is a shrinking inability to receive favor simply for being white and male.
I don't blame anyone living today for what happened in the past. (I'm usually the only black person around saying, "hey, slavery is over.") But to pretend that women and racial minorities have somehow gained the power to oppress a group that has been in control for eons is laughable, at best.
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