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Old 03-06-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Wait, so you rampage daily about the "Liberals" monitoring people's behavior (including the internet)...however you wish the government to ceaselessly patrol the internet for child porn? Hypocritical much?

A number of servers are hosted (or the users live) in other countries, as well as it takes people downloading the information (people cost money) and viewing it to determine what the file is (only an idiot labels the file as something illegal).

Unless you want to pay an enormous increase in taxes to monitor the internet, then even more taxes to invade every country hiding distributors/downloaders of child porn, people are doing what they can.

This is especially funny coming from an OP that states daily the government always screws things up and should be dismantled.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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You do know that when you go on house arrest they slap a device on you. Right? So I can agree with that. Do you think a guard stands at the door? They can and will leave to commit more crimes.

Sending them to a long care mental health facility is pretty much locking them up and throwing away the key. so I can also agree with that.
You do know that there are devices that can and do jam GPS tracking devices to the effect that you don't know where the offender is at, and you don't know that they are jamming the frequency, right?

For every law enforcement advancement, there is a way to get around it. Its been that way since the beginning of law enforcement and crime.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: California
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Excuse the ignorance, but how the hell does this type of trafficking ever happen in the first place!?
These scum go to picture hosting sites, they share questionable pictures, others leave messages, thats how they build up a group of pervs, after they trust each other they share by e-mail and web sites. It's a sick mess.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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You do know that there are devices that can and do jam GPS tracking devices to the effect that you don't know where the offender is at, and you don't know that they are jamming the frequency, right?

For every law enforcement advancement, there is a way to get around it. Its been that way since the beginning of law enforcement and crime.
As soon as you mess with that device you get a warrant issued for your arrest.
Goes for anyone who is currently on one. They have devices that can even detect alcohol for those serving house arrest for DUI's.

So yeah, they are on the run but at least it is known immediately that a child molester is on the run. They can notify the media and get the word and description out. Utilize the Amber Alert system.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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As soon as you mess with that device you get a warrant issued for your arrest.
Goes for anyone who is currently on one. They have devices that can even detect alcohol for those serving house arrest for DUI's.

So yeah, they are on the run but at least it is known immediately that a child molester is on the run. They can notify the media and get the word and description out. Utilize the Amber Alert system.
Again....

There are ways without tampering with the device to jam the frequency so that law enforcement thinks you are in one place, but you're in another, without them ever knowing it.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:22 PM
 
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I am a little ignorant, but how in the hell is this stuff available "to download" in the first place! I am a little surprised that these sources, where ever they may be, are not shut down and banned in the first place. Is this not illegal to create and dispense? If made outside of the US, how can this still not be blocked?

Excuse the ignorance, but how the hell does this type of trafficking ever happen in the first place!?
Same way other illicit files are distributed. Billion-dollar industries (I work for one) are trying to keep their content from being copied, with very little success. It's near impossible.

There are file hosting companies that offer diskspace for data exchange at low or sometimes no cost (banner ads). Now, they're very careful not to have any descriptions and/or knowledge of what's actually in those files on their servers. They're just letting people dump a chunk of ones an zeroes on their disks. Could be a laptop backup, a bunch of family photos, a bootleg of a popular movie or a WikiLeaks dump. The file hosting companies are mostly on the up-and-up and will remove content when asked to.They're located in first-world countries with good access speed. And their owners can stand up in court and say truthfully "I had no idea what was in those files".

The other part of the equation is distributing URLs to files on those sites. That can happen from a web server in Elbonia - sure, the Internet in Elbonia is lousy, but we're not serving content, just a URL to get at the content. And getting an operator in Elbonia to stop hosting something is not that easy. He's probably making enough to buy off the local law enforcement, at least for a while. And, when all is said and one: There is nothing illegal on his website.

That's a very popular model for movie piracy, and it's incredibly hard to get at. I'd imagine it works along the same lines for downright illegal content.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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Again....

There are ways without tampering with the device to jam the frequency so that law enforcement thinks you are in one place, but you're in another, without them ever knowing it.
so the one techie molester can jam it. Still works for the majority. You do not give up because 1% can beat the system. That is a ridiculous way of thinking.
You know, people still break out of prisons so we can give up on that as well.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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Same way other illicit files are distributed. Billion-dollar industries (I work for one) are trying to keep their content from being copied, with very little success. It's near impossible.

There are file hosting companies that offer diskspace for data exchange at low or sometimes no cost (banner ads). Now, they're very careful not to have any descriptions and/or knowledge of what's actually in those files on their servers. They're just letting people dump a chunk of ones an zeroes on their disks. Could be a laptop backup, a bunch of family photos, a bootleg of a popular movie or a WikiLeaks dump. The file hosting companies are mostly on the up-and-up and will remove content when asked to.They're located in first-world countries with good access speed. And their owners can stand up in court and say truthfully "I had no idea what was in those files".

The other part of the equation is distributing URLs to files on those sites. That can happen from a web server in Elbonia - sure, the Internet in Elbonia is lousy, but we're not serving content, just a URL to get at the content. And getting an operator in Elbonia to stop hosting something is not that easy. He's probably making enough to buy off the local law enforcement, at least for a while. And, when all is said and one: There is nothing illegal on his website.

That's a very popular model for movie piracy, and it's incredibly hard to get at. I'd imagine it works along the same lines for downright illegal content.
Isn't that how a certain Swedish torrent website operates?
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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usenet is what savvy piraters use. I'm sure the molesters do the same.
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Old 03-06-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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OR you put them into a long-term mental facility. That's how you try to solve the problem.
I disagree with this part of your posting..

Mental facilities are for those who cant function in society.. These people who look at child porn usually can function normally on a day to day basis. The things they do can be considered sick by most, but that doesnt mean they cant function.

There are lots of things people do in society that we consider sick.. but we dont lock them up in a mental ward..

Jail.. Yes, mental ward.. no..
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