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Old 03-08-2011, 07:07 PM
 
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Then no problem, dems should be silently applauding Walkers actions which are sure to result in overwhelming victors in another year and a half.

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"It's the government sector worker who's the new elite, the highest-paid worker on the block," said David Gregory, who teaches labor and employment law at New York's St. John's University.

For instance, most non-uniformed public employees who have worked in New Jersey for 30 years with an ending salary of $85,000 can look forward to retiring at 55 with an annual pension of about $46,000. Working until age 60 and a salary of $90,000 can bring a pension of $57,000. And many of the New Jersey's public-sector retirees have no or low premiums for their health insurance.
Public sector employees are the pigs at the trough.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:09 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Then no problem, dems should be silently applauding Walkers actions which are sure to result in overwhelming victors in another year and a half.

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Public sector employees are the pigs at the trough.
Well, as I just posted, Walker & the other GOP members have apparently been taking note of all those deteriorating polls & are now open to the collective bargaining issues. The are backing down (as I said they would).


Ken

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Old 03-08-2011, 07:38 PM
 
Location: FL
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As near as I can tell there is nothing in the Governors plan to lower taxes for WI citizens. He gave out a bunch of corporate tax breaks but those weren't for the general population.

Ken
That is because the republicans are all about corporate tax breaks and getting rid of the middle class.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:53 PM
 
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This poll was commissioned by a right leaning "free market" group and is considered by some, one of the most accurate of Wisconsin polls.

Another Poll: Wisconsinites Disapprove Of Walker, Want Him To Compromise | TPMDC

This right leaning poll also has him at majority disapproval and growing.

Wisconsin Governor Walker: 43% Approval Rating - Rasmussen Reports™

Tell me again why those 14 Dem Senators need to worry about voter backlash by standing up to some bully who doesn't represent the majority in his State?

Wow!

Do you think then at the liberal hopes and dreams will come true and that Wisconsin will keep spending to insolvency to satisfy all the leftists? We can only hope that Walker will fail and economic chaos will prevail, as per the democratic "plan".

Perhaps if we wish hard enough, gumdrops and lollipops will fall from the sky and all the water will turn to ginger ale and we will all be happy.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Wow!

Do you think then at the liberal hopes and dreams will come true and that Wisconsin will keep spending to insolvency to satisfy all the leftists? We can only hope that Walker will fail and economic chaos will prevail, as per the democratic "plan".

Perhaps if we wish hard enough, gumdrops and lollipops will fall from the sky and all the water will turn to ginger ale and we will all be happy.
Wow! Walker sure had you running scared with his shock doctrine politics.

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Shock Doctrine politics are in play when politicians create a crisis, then exploit it to eliminate popular rights. Privatization of public services so the “market” can “work” is just another element of the formula.
http://themoderatevoice.com/102267/s...ay-in-the-usa/
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:39 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Wow!

Do you think then at the liberal hopes and dreams will come true and that Wisconsin will keep spending to insolvency to satisfy all the leftists? We can only hope that Walker will fail and economic chaos will prevail, as per the democratic "plan".

Perhaps if we wish hard enough, gumdrops and lollipops will fall from the sky and all the water will turn to ginger ale and we will all be happy.
The SPENDING wasn't the issue. Wisconsin wasn't ANYWHERE NEAR insolvency. In fact, it sounds like that until Walker issued the new tax breaks the budget was balanced - and even AFTER that, the unions had already agreed to the spending cuts. The ISSUE was maintaining the RIGHTS of the workers to collective bargaining - and without collective bargaining a union is really not much a union (which was apparently Walkers (now perhaps aborted) goal.

Ken
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:56 PM
 
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For the 100th time - that's NOT the issue people are FIRED UP ABOUT.
Can you not read???????
The issue causing the deadlock is Walker's instance that the unions be stripped of their COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RIGHTS.
And exactly what about the fact that those collective bargaining "rights" are RESPONSIBLE for the union being able to OVERCHARGE the WI taxpayers $100 million per year do you not get?
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:00 PM
 
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The unions agreed to the tax cuts.
Really?

Cite the source that says the WI teachers' union is paying back the $100 million per year they overcharged the WI taxpayers.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:12 PM
 
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Wow!

Do you think then at the liberal hopes and dreams will come true and that Wisconsin will keep spending to insolvency to satisfy all the leftists? We can only hope that Walker will fail and economic chaos will prevail, as per the democratic "plan".
It will be quite interesting to watch the left's outraged wailing and gnashing of teeth when more and more WI citizens lose their homes because they can't pay their union-induced sky high property tax bills.

Go for it, unions! Let's see the maximum number of families you can render homeless in the shortest amount of time with your never-ending demands for more, more, more!!!!!!
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:16 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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And exactly what about the fact that those collective bargaining "rights" are RESPONSIBLE for the union being able to OVERCHARGE the WI taxpayers $100 million per year do you not get?
And your right to own a gun is responsible for the fact that thousands of folks are killed by guns each year. Are proposing we disallow guns?

You are like a broken record - only able to say the words "OVERCHARGE the WI taxpayers $100 million per year". Does that turn you on or something to repeat that phrase over and over and over again.

The government negoiators are not exactly helpless you know, if the government wants union to change away from the plan in question they simply have to make it priority in their negoiations.

Ken
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