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Old 03-07-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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Article from Reuters about the Govenor of Wisconsin threatening layoffs.
Protesters rally in Wisconsin after governor threatens layoffs | Reuters





The rich are trying to gain more power. They've already had major tax breaks over the past ten years. CEO's are walking away with huge golden
parachutes while they take their employees' pensions, and lay them off.
They run Fox News and have paid off Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter, etc. , to spread their propaganda. They won't stop till the unions are gone and the workers have no rights. The Republican Party has clearly aligned themselves with the wealthy. They won't stop till Medicare/Medicade and Social Security are gone. There are more of us than them and if we stand together we can beat them. That is the ONLY way the rest of us have a chance.
Unions need to go. Especially public unions. They have told they are untouchable for a long time. Just put it this way, for what you are getting in public because you bought out your boss, you will never able to get that much in the private sectors.

A train ticket collector making 60k a year and guarantee raise every year. A generous pensions after 20 to 25 years? And guarantee no layoff? Where can you find something that does require any skill, any education to do.

If you believe what you do is competitive, then go out to the private sectors and show us.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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This really is fascinating.
Isn't it, though...

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The left can't muster a coherent response as to why tax payers should enrich a union insurance company.
No one can satisfactorily explain your fantasies.

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They can't even deflect, it really is telling!
No, deflection is a wingnut tactic. RE: your union insurance company... whatever it is.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:21 PM
 
Location: California
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Big corporations would love for unions to go so they can outsource more jobs for lower wages. The CEO's and company executive's keep being paid astronomical amounts of money and get golden parachute's worth millions when they leave. Outsourcing is not good for America or it's workers. Workers need the unions and so does America.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:26 PM
 
Location: California
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Lightbulb Look at this and tell me it's not rich vs poor

http://i.imgur.com/tlG0Y.jpg (broken link)
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:30 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This really is fascinating. The left can't muster a coherent response as to why tax payers should enrich a union insurance company. They can't even deflect, it really is telling!
We're too busy looking for a coherent argument from the right about why it's OK to build things in Iraq like an unuseable $75M Police Academy with taxpayers $$$ yet buying a BandAid for an American is SOCIALISM! Perhaps the right's too busy conjuring up more sweetheart deals for the oil companies et al to answer?

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Old 03-07-2011, 03:33 PM
 
Location: California
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Infographic: Tax Breaks vs. Budget Cuts
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:38 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Kerby W-R View Post
Article from Reuters about the Govenor of Wisconsin threatening layoffs.
Protesters rally in Wisconsin after governor threatens layoffs | Reuters





The rich are trying to gain more power. They've already had major tax breaks over the past ten years. CEO's are walking away with huge golden
parachutes while they take their employees' pensions, and lay them off.
They run Fox News and have paid off Limbaugh, Beck, Coulter, etc. , to spread their propaganda. They won't stop till the unions are gone and the workers have no rights. The Republican Party has clearly aligned themselves with the wealthy. They won't stop till Medicare/Medicade and Social Security are gone. There are more of us than them and if we stand together we can beat them. That is the ONLY way the rest of us have a chance.
When you say "rich" who exactly are you talking about ? Perhaps you could be more specific about who this devious cabal is that are doing all of these evil heinous things.
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Old 03-07-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Isn't it, though...



No one can satisfactorily explain your fantasies.



No, deflection is a wingnut tactic. RE: your union insurance company... whatever it is.

Too funny, the wacky lefties don't even understand the issues! LOL!!

WEAC's WEA Trust scam at stake in collective bargaining reform | EducationNews.org

"The union uses its bargaining rights to drum up business for its pet insurance company. MUSKEGON, Mich. - Much of the current controversy in Wisconsin involves the impending loss of most collective bargaining privileges for state employees, including public school teachers.
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The fact is that the Wisconsin Education Association Council, the largest teachers union in the state, has grossly abused that privilege for decades, resulting in the unnecessary siphoning of millions of dollars from Wisconsin public schools.

Under current Wisconsin law, the identity of the insurance company that provides health coverage to school employees is a matter of collective bargaining in each school district.

In the majority of districts around the state, WEAC negotiators have used that law to pressure local school boards into purchasing coverage from WEA Trust, an insurance company established by and closely associated with the union."

Step aside and let the adults talk.
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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We're too busy looking for a coherent argument from the right about why it's OK to build things in Iraq like an unuseable $75M Police Academy with taxpayers $$$ yet buying a BandAid for an American is SOCIALISM! Perhaps the right's too busy conjuring up more sweetheart deals for the oil companies et al to answer?
Now that is a great deflection. Please tell us what Iraq has to do with Wisconsin collective bargaining. This should be good........
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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This should be very instructive for everyone. The left looks at all wealth as theirs to be doled out. Taxing people less doesn't "cost" the government anything as it isn't theirs in the first place.
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