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Old 03-07-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy View Post
This is a direct attack in the youth vote which the GOP KNOWS it can't win.

Why can't the GOP win the youth vote?

They want to maintain the social status quo in terms of who stays in power and expanding the power of those already in power.

And they are too narrow minded and they are too bigoted.
how is it an attack on the youth????

by requiring them to establish a residency, before they can vote for that AREAS representitive....remember we vote for REPRESENTATIVES of DISTRICTS and states,,,,do you want a person voting for a new york senators AND a new jersey senator????


this law will help to stop the liberal voter fraud
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy View Post
This is a direct attack in the youth vote which the GOP KNOWS it can't win.

Why can't the GOP win the youth vote?

They want to maintain the social status quo in terms of who stays in power and expanding the power of those already in power.

And they are too narrow minded and they are too bigoted.
Could you explain how this is a direct attack on the youth vote?
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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this law will help to stop the liberal voter fraud
Charlie White isn't exactly a liberal. But if I'm wary of voter fraud, it is the attempt towards voter purge using false methods. Now, what are the chances of THAT happening (never mind likes of Diebold)
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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how is it an attack on the youth????

by requiring them to establish a residency, before they can vote for that AREAS representitive....remember we vote for REPRESENTATIVES of DISTRICTS and states,,,,do you want a person voting for a new york senators AND a new jersey senator????


this law will help to stop the liberal voter fraud
This law only validates that the Republicans, UNABLE TO PROVE widespread voter fraud, continue to allege it in an attempt to malign the opposing party. It's spin, the law's redundant, but Republicans will propose it anyway, and if anyone points out that it's redundant, needless law, the Republicans will say that its opponents support voter fraud.

FACT: VOTER FRAUD IS ALREADY ILLEGAL. This law will do nothing to make it more illegal. This law will do nothing.

FACT: THE REPUBLICANS KNOW THIS. They only support redundant laws not for ideological reasons, but to mislead people.

If voter fraud were the problem that Republicans make it out to be, they'd easily be able to prove it. But there efforts have only turned up a handful of cases, which have been prosecuted.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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This law only validates that the Republicans, UNABLE TO PROVE widespread voter fraud, continue to allege it in an attempt to malign the opposing party. It's spin, the law's redundant, but Republicans will propose it anyway, and if anyone points out that it's redundant, needless law, the Republicans will say that its opponents support voter fraud.

FACT: VOTER FRAUD IS ALREADY ILLEGAL. This law will do nothing to make it more illegal. This law will do nothing.

FACT: THE REPUBLICANS KNOW THIS. They only support redundant laws not for ideological reasons, but to mislead people.

If voter fraud were the problem that Republicans make it out to be, they'd easily be able to prove it. But there efforts have only turned up a handful of cases, which have been prosecuted.
Will the proposed law make it more difficult to commit voter fraud?
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Will the proposed law make it more difficult to commit voter fraud?
No. It's already illegal to vote in two different jurisdictions. This law won't make it more illegal.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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actually its a good idea

it says you CAN vote if you(OR your parent) establistes residency(in your NEW LOCATION of your college)..therefore invalidating your PREVIOUS residency...

the reason liberals dont like it , is it will block them from voting twice...the liberal mantra, vote often, in many places, under many names


liberals and voter fraud..two peas in a pod
Is there any evidence that any of this fraud is happening in any kind of signficant amount?

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IIRC - In New Hampshire you, if you are a resident student from another state, may vote in NH OR at your home but not at both. NH students studying in other states may vote using absentee ballots in New Hampshire or at school if allowed by that state's voting rules. NH residents in Military service may vote from wherever they are by absentee ballot.
That is the same in CO as well. Both of my daughters voted here (to the extent that the younger one voted at all) when they went to college out of state. However, the older one, who was gone 4 years, said it was hard as time went on b/c she didn't know the candidates or the issues as well. When Paul Wellstone was killed, there was a big push to get students at her college (St. Olaf) to vote in MN to elect another Dem; however, she chose to vote in CO. MN has same day registration; it would have been possible for her to vote both places, but I think she would have received a 'provisional ballot' in MN and when they checked against the records, would have found her ineligible. In these days of computers, that is not hard to do.

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Cuz we know that democrats NEVER engage in any election trickery?
What's this got to do with the topic?

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how is it an attack on the youth????

by requiring them to establish a residency, before they can vote for that AREAS representitive....remember we vote for REPRESENTATIVES of DISTRICTS and states,,,,do you want a person voting for a new york senators AND a new jersey senator????

this law will help to stop the liberal voter fraud
I'd like to see some evidence that there is a lot of voter fraud of this nature, before spending the money to pass a law. Generally "establishing residency" for voting purposes means living somewhere a specified number of days, e.g. 30. Period. If they're going to spend all sorts of money to verify that everyone has also registered their car there, paid income tax, blah, blah, blah, that's a waste of taxpayer money.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:13 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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No. It's already illegal to vote in two different jurisdictions. This law won't make it more illegal.
Does it make it more difficult is what I asked....

Would the proposed law make it more difficult to commit voter fraud?

To add,isn't ANY voter fraud wrong so anything that would diminish the chances of it happening should be welcomed by everyone I would think....
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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If you can't beat the opposition at the pools, just keep their voting blocks from voting at all.



So even if people are permanent residents, they couldn't vote if they were college students if their parents did not live there.

That's a great way to champion "Freedom"!

In states, parties clash over voting laws that call for IDs, limits on where college students can cast ballots

Epic thread fail.

How does this prevent them from voting in their state of residence via absentee ballot? It makes perfect sense that a city or town would not want young people who live in their area temporarily and have no vested interest to have a say in how their local government is run.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:17 AM
 
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Does it make it more difficult is what I asked....

Would the proposed law make it more difficult to commit voter fraud?

To add,isn't ANY voter fraud wrong so anything that would diminish the chances of it happening should be welcomed by everyone I would think....
Does making it minimally more difficult to commit voter fraud outweight the increased difficulty of people to legally vote?

Is it alright that we pass this law that will make it harder for people to vote legally if it in any way makes it harder for people to commit voter fraud?
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