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So the liberal argument comes down to
College students are too lazy to pickup the phone and get an absentee ballot mailed to them, or its too difficult for these people who live with a cell phone tied to their ear, to actually use a phone to get a ballot to them.
All I can say is.. wow
No, actually the argument is college students should be allowed to vote where they go to school and live most of the year. They shouldn't be forced to vote absentee because others do not like the way college students vote.
They still could, but less of a chance they actually will, and that is what this is about.
Why?
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Anything that reduces the chance that college students will vote. Its about not wanting college students to vote on campus because of not liking the way they vote.
You keep stating this but it could also reduce the chances of voter fraud,and if it stops even one person from illegally voting it is worth it.
Don't you agree that everything possible should be done to reduce voter fraud?
Military personal and college students can either vote where they are stationed/ going to school or where they actually live via absentee. College students and Military personal have the same rights in that regard. If the Military happens to be overseas or a college student abroad then they obviously have to vote absentee because they can't vote in another country. But they have the same rights on where they can vote.
"Home of Record" is used to determine travel entitlements when one separates from the military. It has nothing to do with voting or paying taxes, registering vehicles, nor any of the other priviledges of state residency.
"Legal Residency," or "domicile", on the other hand refers to the place where a military member intends to return to and live after discharge or retirement, and which they consider their "permanent home." Legal residency determines what local (state) tax laws a military member is subject to, and in which local (city, county, state) elections they may vote in.
If a military personnel from Florida is stationed in Texas.. they vote in Florida..
Under the law, "legal residence" is the place that the military member intends to live after they separate or retire from the military. It's the place that they consider their "permament home."
Again, why do you think college students should be treated any different than those in the military? Is college these childrens "permanent home"?
If the Military happens to be overseas or a college student abroad then they obviously have to vote absentee because they can't vote in another country. But they have the same rights on where they can vote.
The striking down was related to cost of ID cards, not on ID itself. As in "poll tax". Or, do you also support the idea that people should pay for ID cards to be eligible to vote?
They still could, but less of a chance they actually will, and that is what this is about. Anything that reduces the chance that college students will vote. Its about not wanting college students to vote on campus because of not liking the way they vote.
Oh I see- "They still could..."
So this evil move by the GOP could easily be twarted were it not for the laziness and apathy of students?
Not that I am a registered Republican, but thank you for absolving them of these idiotic accusations.
These college students need only get of thier lazy butts and go through the proper procedures to vote, no? I mean, Smash255, a great many blacks before 1965 went through hell to excercise the right to vote. Not to mention women before the early 20th century.
And you, Smash255, come on here and yowl about students not being catered to and pampered.
So the liberal argument comes down to
College students are too lazy to pickup the phone and get an absentee ballot mailed to them, or its too difficult for these people who live with a cell phone tied to their ear, to actually use a phone to get a ballot to them.
All I can say is.. wow
No-one has yet answered WHY it is so difficult for college students to absentee vote....but I have my suspicions it may indeed be laziness.
You keep stating this but it could also reduce the chances of voter fraud,and if it stops even one person from illegally voting it is worth it.
Don't you agree that everything possible should be done to reduce voter fraud?
More can be done to stop voter fraud without infringing on the rights of college students being able to vote. You can do more to stop voter fraud without forcing college kids to vote absentee and not allowing them to vote where they attend school. Again this is NOT about voter fraud. This is about stopping college kids from voting on campus because you don't like how they vote.
THIS IS WHAT THIS ABOUT
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Average taxpayers in college towns, he said, are having their votes "diluted or entirely canceled by those of a huge, largely monolithic demographic group . . . composed of people with a dearth of experience and a plethora of the easy self-confidence that only ignorance and inexperience can produce."
Their "youthful idealism," he added, "is focused on remaking the world, with themselves in charge, of course, rather than with the mundane humdrum of local government."
Stopping college kids from voting on campus because of not liking their views, ideology or how they vote. Stopping those from be able to vote on campus because you don't like how they vote is absolutely ridiculous. THAT is what this is about.
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