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Are you talking about the VERY SAME tax cuts for the rich that Obama continued?
Under continued threats by the same fools that manipulated the stupid to vote them in to creat jobs
Is continuing a mess somehow better than creating it?
The refuticans gotta make up their minds, do they want to spend (bush) or cut (obama) i guess that depends on who is in office
Gotta love partisan politics. No wonder nothing gets done. Your guy did it= bad. My guy does the excat same thing= no problem
It is not my guy or your guy my issue, My probelm as a veteran was sending over 5000 fellow military members to die to make the rich richer. Oh yeah and for PRETENDING to be in the military
In the latest move to try to hurt this president, the Republicans are doing something that they DID NOT DO during 8 years under Republican George Bush: insist on slashing SPENDING. Bush of course was on a warmongering spending spree, dumping ungodly amounts of money to fight two wars, and lose to militarily inferior opponents. Bush engaged in an ideological war and spent mightily while Republicans sat around silently chasing their tails.
Now with their sudden concern for the deficit and the spending that this president must do to resuscitate the country from the Dubya Dark Ages, they threaten to shut down the Federal government. This had a disastrous effect on Gingrich when he was Speaker and you can bet that it will have a similar effect on this imbecile Speaker we have now in the House. Shame on you hapless Pubs for showing your arses like this. Benefit to Dems.
"Ideological purity does NOT solve problems" - President Obama
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Originally Posted by TempesT68
It's not looking good for republicans no doubt. They are getting hammered from the dems and the tea party to cut cut cut but they won't cut anything meaningful not unsurprising. If the right don't put on their big boy pants and actually try to make some real cuts to offset their massive 858 billion dollars in spending to bank roll the rich, they are going to look like liars and fools nationwide.
these posts are pure unadulterated RUBBISH!!! first, the deficit went DOWN in the first 6 years of the bush administration, it was only after the democrats took over congress that the deficits climbed again.
second, had the democrats actually done their jobs in april 2010, there would be NO discussion of shutting down the government, as their would have been a budget through the end of fiscal 2010. instead they ignored their CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY to produce a budget, and we have to deal with the crapola they are putting out now.
third, even the $60 billion in cuts the republicans want are rubbish as they do not go far enough. remember that just the interest on our debt is $400 billion per year, so $60 billion is a drop in the bucket.
fourth, in 1995 when the government shut down, it was clinton that shut the government down by not signing the budget that was properly passed by congress. at that time the democrats were able to spin it so that the republicans took the blame for the shut down. this time however the american people are not going to by the democrat spin because they know that it is now the democrats that are holding things up, and not wanting to cut the budget like the american people want.
i hope the government does shut down. but that only means that no new social security applications will be processed, the visitor centers in the national parks will be closed, the national monuments will be closed, but social security checks will still go out, the military, law enforcement, the courts, the prisons, etc will still all be up and running. you will probably have to wait for passport processing though.
these posts are pure unadulterated RUBBISH!!! first, the deficit went DOWN in the first 6 years of the bush administration, it was only after the democrats took over congress that the deficits climbed again.
second, had the democrats actually done their jobs in april 2010, there would be NO discussion of shutting down the government, as their would have been a budget through the end of fiscal 2010. instead they ignored their CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY to produce a budget, and we have to deal with the crapola they are putting out now.
third, even the $60 billion in cuts the republicans want are rubbish as they do not go far enough. remember that just the interest on our debt is $400 billion per year, so $60 billion is a drop in the bucket.
fourth, in 1995 when the government shut down, it was clinton that shut the government down by not signing the budget that was properly passed by congress. at that time the democrats were able to spin it so that the republicans took the blame for the shut down. this time however the american people are not going to by the democrat spin because they know that it is now the democrats that are holding things up, and not wanting to cut the budget like the american people want.
i hope the government does shut down. but that only means that no new social security applications will be processed, the visitor centers in the national parks will be closed, the national monuments will be closed, but social security checks will still go out, the military, law enforcement, the courts, the prisons, etc will still all be up and running. you will probably have to wait for passport processing though.
yes you are correct, howeve they won't be paid until the shutdown is over
Is Obama gusty enough to go through with a shutdown or will he give in at the last minute?
If he did, could he manipulate the Senate to vote for whatever needed to be voted for in order to get the budget passed?
Or will Boehner give in at the last minute?
As someone in a military community, I can tell you this. 90% of the people in the area who are effected by losing military business are blaming the Republicans if it goes down.
The news, newspapers, and almost everyone you talk to here is looking at Republicans as the blame for all of this talk. If they want to hold onto the Florida panhandle in the next election, they'd better do something PDQ.
Who's been in the majority for how many years now and people want to blame the GOP? Where is the budget from last year? Oh that's right, the Dems didnt pass one because they knew their type of budget wouldve pissed off voters and they were worried about losing more seats this past November.
And now, with still having a Senate majority, people want to blame the GOP?
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