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I wouldn't count those seats just yet. The WI taxpayers will find themselves more than happy have the unions' boots off their necks.
The really cool part of eliminating the collective bargaining aspect is that the Union workers can now pay their dues directly to the Union, rather than the state taking those dues out of their paychecks and distributing to the Unions. Kinda like making Union membership a choice.
Money spent always has more value than money never owned. More Union employees can now look for accountability from their Union bosses.
The side benefit is that the state won't be collecting the funds that are then used for political causes.
Either Walker lied when he said removing collective bargaining is necessary for the budget or he is acting dishonestly now by removing it from the budget bill!
WI, your governor is a dishonest man!
He has shown his true colors and more is to come!
Once the dems are back doing their duty, it will be reinstated into the budget repair bill.
I have been lobbying the Senate in WI to do just what they did tonight. Get it done, get it over with, cause the democrats would never negotiate in good faith, the union bosses would never allow that.
The Dems and the Unions tried to compromise, Walker is the one who refused to compromise and negotiate. And now the actions of the Wisconsin State Senators prove taking the collective bargaining rights away had absolutely nothing to do with the deficit and the budget.
The emails Walker released (clever move there) contradict the above. The democrats were not negotiating in good faith, had no intention of negotiating and were only there to try and run out the clock.
Once the dems are back doing their duty, it will be reinstated into the budget repair bill.
I have been lobbying the Senate in WI to do just what they did tonight. Get it done, get it over with, cause the democrats would never negotiate in good faith, the union bosses would never allow that.
You are a lobbyist of the WI senate for what special interest group?
I believe these people provided respectable and needed services to earn that public dime.
No one said they haven't. Wages aren't the issue, just public unions medical/pension perks.
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Sad day when people have lost respect for teachers, police, firefighters, emergency operators, prison guards, etc.........
No one has lost respect for them. They've lost respect for the taxpayers, you know, the people paying medical and pension benefits out of their pockets to public unions as well as for their own.
Taxpayers get no perks. Taxpayers get taxed more to pay public union perks.
It's either pay something toward your own medical/pension, get laid off, or lose your job altogether. Many Americans from the middle class have already lost their jobs, homes, medical and pensions. Just because you join a public union doesn't mean you should be guaranteed a job, free medical coverage and a free pension for life. No one in indispensable.
The recall efforts will explode and move to include enough Repubs in the Assembly, to get this mess turned back. It will take a while and the Kochs will get their money back when Walker gives the Power Plants to them for virtually nothing.
Probably not. Once this is over, once the unions admit defeat and go home, the electorate will realize that Walker has the state back on solid fiscal ground.
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Originally Posted by padcrasher
There are some motivated citizens in this State now. How many State Senate seats will the GOP lose? I'm thinking 6 plus a Governor.
Out of state you mean, where they are sending out applications for outsiders to come into WI and organize the recall effort.
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Originally Posted by florida.bob
Recall votes on some could be 2-3 months from now.
For the democrats too.
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Originally Posted by jojajn
Many are voting against Walker with their pocket books until they can start the recall process this November.
Donated. Thanks for the link. Also reposted on Facebook. They've increased their goal to $750k.
Last edited by Jill61; 03-09-2011 at 07:20 PM..
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