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Old 03-10-2011, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Murfreesboro (nearer Smyrna), TN
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When I see people who make a lot of money doing real work that helps society, I am happy for them.

When I see greedy, pompous people make a lot of money off scamming others, financial trickery, and not pulling their equal weight in society while pulling in the dough, I think they do not deserve it.
What do you call "not pulling their equal weight"? I know many people who just go to work and come home. They do virtually nothing.

Charles Sands
Smyrna, TN
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:45 PM
 
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We can't seem to agree on healthcare, so lets try education . . .

Many magazines publish an annual list of "The Best Colleges in America." Many of the same schools appear on the list year after year. You know who they are.

Does everyone have a right to attend one of these schools?
So for K-12 it should be the same? Price points and children going to poor schools because of conditions they had no control of. Sounds like a winning nation.

So let me get this straight, children who are born into poor families should have substandard medical care and education and thus try to get out of poverty with less opportunities and poorer health. Wow.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:47 PM
 
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And the fact you can't afford healthcare or education is my problem?
Well actually, yes. It means that we loose our overall competitive advantage if we have large swaths of uneducated people and people too sick to work.

It decreases our productivity and means we loose economically in the long run.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:12 PM
 
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Maybe because many of us work for them?

I work part-time for Company X. The head of Company X has given me a lousy 3% raise in five years. Meanwhile CEO Slimeball has lost contracts left and right and been sued for incompetence. He's also increased his own pay by a fifth to over a million a year.

Most Americans have seen their wages remain flat and even fall relative to inflation while prices for items like food, shelter and college tuition have increased hugely. In the meantime pay rates for the very top percentiles have soared.

Many of us are sick of it. I personally resent paying 33% on my income while the hedge fund manager pays a mere 15% on an income orders of magnitude greater.

Why is that so hard to understand? Treat people poorly and they will hate you.
The tax code dictates that kind of behavior. I think the 15% is if you keep the investment for two years or more. The rate was 20% and the same 15% the same way is something you can participate in. Don't fault others from success in what you don't seem to want to do.

The very top percentages that made money were the bosses paying tons of salaries, and making great choices that caused the business to turn a profit.

Instead of being mad at them, copy what they do right.
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Old 03-10-2011, 11:18 PM
 
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So for K-12 it should be the same? Price points and children going to poor schools because of conditions they had no control of. Sounds like a winning nation.

So let me get this straight, children who are born into poor families should have substandard medical care and education and thus try to get out of poverty with less opportunities and poorer health. Wow.
My wife pays $700 a month for her insurance and should get far superior care IMO to the person who has the taxpayer paying for their health care.

Also it is a known fact that poor people often have a horrible diet leading to bad health that often requires more medical care.
For some reason when broke they seem to pop out more kids. Is it the social programs enabling this?

The children flunking out from schools suffer their parents. They don't often enough bring their kids to school with the ability to participate, sit, listen, do homework or study.
See a bad student, look to the parents.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:16 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Lightbulb Why are many bothered by well-off people?

A much better question:

Why are radical right wingers trying to portray those with $250,000/year incomes as "not that well off" while pointing their fingers at teachers with $45,000/year incomes as "the problem?"

Jon Stewart Calls Out Fox News' Hypocrisy Comparing Teachers, Wall Street (VIDEO)
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:31 AM
 
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The scammers are never rich and they are usually caught. There is no conspiracy of financial trickery in our society by the rich. It's easy to get money once you have it. The layabouts collecting unemployment and welfare are the problem of society.
I agree once you have money it is easy to get more.

Now that I can afford what I want, many things are given to us by companies wanting to see their product being used.

My best example is the hunting and fishing equipment my hubby uses.

Companies want him to be seen in thier boat, using their bow, wearing their gear.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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And the fact you can't afford healthcare or education is my problem?
Now only if you could look farther than self, you wouldn't be asking such questions.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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A much better question:
Why are radical right wingers trying to portray those with $250,000/year incomes as "not that well off" while pointing their fingers at teachers with $45,000/year incomes as "the problem?"
Two possibilities: Brainwashed or Braindead.
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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Now only if you could look farther than self, you wouldn't be asking such questions.
Wouldn't it be better if we all looked after ourselves???
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