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I wonder how many protestors and others who weigh in on this topic have an understanding of the difference between a private sector and public sector union. And if they do, would they still defend the idea of public sector unions.
In very simplistic terms:
Privete sector = union v.s. corporation
Public sector = union v.s. taxpayer
If you want to negotiate with a corporation, form a union. If you get greedy and drive the corporation out of business or overseas....tough luck.
If you want to "negotiate" with the taxpayers, get out and vote for people who support your position.
I wonder how many protestors and others who weigh in on this topic have an understanding of the difference between a private sector and public sector union. And if they do, would they still defend the idea of public sector unions.
In very simplistic terms:
Privete sector = union v.s. corporation
Public sector = union v.s. taxpayer
If you want to negotiate with a corporation, form a union. If you get greedy and drive the corporation out of business or overseas....tough luck.
If you want to "negotiate" with the taxpayers, get out and vote for people who support your position.
Do you really think that this is going to lead to lower taxes?
Do you really think that this is going to lead to lower taxes?
Lower taxes ? Not sure !
But tax hikes yes Because the state would need tax increases to pay public workers health care and pensions.And this money wouldn't be invested in infrastructures.
Oh, you just don't know how much I like writing that line ... beginning with "unions lose."
The Republicans in Wisconsin have decided to act without the 14 absent Democrat members of the Wisconsin Senate and have passed their bill stripping Wisconsin government unions of most of their collective bargaining rights. Now the original bill - the one the Democrats refused to do their jobs and vote on - also contained a provision which ending union's dues check off - meaning that if union members wanted to pay their dues they would pay them out of their own checkbooks, not have them automatically deducted by the government entity that pays them. I hope that's in the bill ... but can't find a mention of it.
How did the Republicans finally act? It was simple. The Democrats were needed for a quorum. A Senate quorum, however, was only needed for bills which spend money. Originally the provision ending collective bargaining was part of a spending bill. All the Republicans did - finally - was to simply introduce a separate bill ending collective bargaining rights, a bill with no spending provisions, and it passed the Wisconsin Senate yesterday. The assembly (the house) is scheduled to vote today where passage is assumed and off it goes for Governor Scott's signature.
The reactions from the union members and the Democrats is just what you would expect ... panic and rage.
It is just proof Mr. Walker has been lying this whole time...Collective bargaining has nothing to do with the state budget.
It does have something to do with the budget. CB holds the budget and the state hostage to get what they want. That is over now in WI. The unions still have some CB power left. The most important stuff like wages can still be bargained.
It does have something to do with the budget. CB holds the budget and the state hostage to get what they want. That is over now in WI. The unions still have some CB power left. The most important stuff like wages can still be bargained.
If that was the case he would have needed quorum...Maybe it did though in which case a judge could strike it down.
Wow, you really have to tie yourself in a knot to make this a victory for unions.
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Because the state would need tax increases to pay public workers health care and pensions.And this money wouldn't be invested in infrastructures.
