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Who was the better president? FDR is the father of liberalism while Ronald Reagan is regarded as the greatest Republican president.
This quote pretty much says it all.
Conservatives do think that Reagan was the greatest Republican president, and many think he was the greatest president ever.
In other words, they consider a president who supported the racist policies of Bob Jones University and the racist regime in South Africa to be greater than Abraham Lincoln, who did nothing except preserve the Union and end slavery.
Makes you think about where the values of conservatives lie, doesn't it?
It started dropping the year after FDR took office, and except for two years it kept dropping every year even before the war.
Not quite. The unemployment rate went up sharply in 1938, and in 1939 it was higher than it had been in 1936. WW II started in September, and only when our production increased in order to supply our allies did the jobless rate decline.
Clearly Ronald Reagan. Liberalism is what is destroying this country and society.
Wrong. At a time when the rest of the world turned to: facism (Italy, Germany, most of East Europe) the Soviet Union was communist, France was disfunctional politically, and Great Britian was thrust from one crisis to another and Argentina sunk from a world power to a disfunctional nation, FDR kept this nation stable. He had the forsight to see the coming crisis in Europe and Asia. Had the GOP run the place, the pro Nazi conservative America First movement would have taken over. During the previous GOP administrations, the nation was first plunged under Harding and Coolidge into a great farming depression, followed by a total depression under Hoover. The KKK ran several states and took a prominent national role. It would have been a frightful nation and world without FDR. Like it or not, FDR saved this nation with a moderate course between two extremes.
"If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." JFK 9/14/1960
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Conservatives do think that Reagan was the greatest Republican president, and many think he was the greatest president ever.
In other words, they consider a president who supported the racist policies of Bob Jones University and the racist regime in South Africa to be greater than Abraham Lincoln, who did nothing except preserve the Union and end slavery.
Makes you think about where the values of conservatives lie, doesn't it?
Lincolns goal had nothing to do with ending slavery. A couple times in his speeches he said his goal had nothing to do with slavery but instead preserving the Union. But don't take Lincolns word for it.
makes you wonder where the education of liberals lie, doesn't it?
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A result of attempts to balance the budget while recovery was still going.
Massive government spending went with it, about 50% of the GDP for a few years in the 1940s.
Unemployment going up had little to do with trying to balance the budget. Unemployment went up as a result of FDR stealing money from the private sector. The taxes and burdens imposed inhibited companies from hiring.
FDR set wages, AGAIN. Because of this companies had to make due with less workers. Do the math. If you budgeted for $100 and are forced to pay out $5 you get 20 workers. Lower the wage scale to $4 and you get 25 workers.
Unemployment going up had little to do with trying to balance the budget. Unemployment went up as a result of FDR stealing money from the private sector. The taxes and burdens imposed inhibited companies from hiring.
You're forgetting cuts in federal spending. Did that happen as well?
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
Lincolns goal had nothing to do with ending slavery. A couple times in his speeches he said his goal had nothing to do with slavery but instead preserving the Union.
Lincoln didn’t get to set his goals, considering that just his election had many get their undies twisted in a knot.
Last edited by EinsteinsGhost; 03-15-2011 at 12:48 PM..
Lincolns goal had nothing to do with ending slavery. A couple times in his speeches he said his goal had nothing to do with slavery but instead preserving the Union. But don't take Lincolns word for it.
makes you wonder where the education of liberals lie, doesn't it?
Now go back and show me where I said anything about Lincoln's goals.
I'll wait.
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