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Old 03-11-2011, 07:52 PM
 
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A few?

Have you heard of metropolitan areas? Majority of Americans live in them.
and how far are most metropolitan areas apart? Can you give me that information....

You do understand that these trains hit 180MPH+

and the fastest are a few MPH quicker...

These trains cannot even do a regular turn like a normal train....because of the speed....

The length of the track pieces are also different, not like a normal train....

Learn a little....before you complain...

Just a little knowledge for ya...

This is the same reason a supersonic jet cannot do a regular turn like a sub-sonic jet...

Yea, I know the speeds are different...but the same outcome....

Think about it....
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:56 PM
 
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I don't like the tone this thread was started with. If we want to accomplish anything, we need to start conversations like this in a civil manner.

Anyway, I just want to ask (again) why one form of transportation is expected to be run privately, when all others are subsidized. If we cut the $35-40 billion that is given to the Federal Highway Administration every year, (or the $15 billion +/- given to the FAA) you can bet that passenger rail service would become a lot more attractive to the private investors out there.
As long as you don't mind the time difference...from a passenger train to a normal car....the car is almost always faster...

You think the highways are busy going into a city...think about numerous 50,000lb plus train going to the same place...at the same time....
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:03 PM
 
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That is obviously not HSR in the video. The fact that rail itself can stimulate growth is beside the point (not sure that that is a totally valid claim, either), as that is not at all what we're talking about. We're talking about passenger HSR trains.
It's not - Harrison and Journal Square have been stops for eons. It's just one more town working on a waterfront revitalization project - to bring in young NYC'ers who want more bang for their buck than they can get in NYC and still be a hop-skip away from Manhattan. They don't stick around once they have kids (Abbott school district areas).
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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and how far are most metropolitan areas apart? Can you give me that information....

You do understand that these trains hit 180MPH+

and the fastest are a few MPH quicker...

These trains cannot even do a regular turn like a normal train....because of the speed....

The length of the track pieces are also different, not like a normal train....

Learn a little....before you complain...

Just a little knowledge for ya...

This is the same reason a supersonic jet cannot do a regular turn like a sub-sonic jet...

Yea, I know the speeds are different...but the same outcome....

Think about it....
Metros are a fair distance from one another. High Speed Rail could utilize its full speed.

Lol@turns

Is that your argument?

Weak

I'm sure HSR could minimize their speeds when necessary. They can do that whenever it's time to make a "turn".
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Old 03-11-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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It's not - Harrison and Journal Square have been stops for eons. It's just one more town working on a waterfront revitalization project - to bring in young NYC'ers who want more bang for their buck than they can get in NYC and still be a hop-skip away from Manhattan. They don't stick around once they have kids (Abbott school district areas).
Both Stops are nearing 100 years old , both stops will have massive billion $$ developments by the end of the decade.....adding 70,000+ to the over congested PATH.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:06 PM
 
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Both Stops are nearing 100 years old , both stops will have massive billion $$ developments by the end of the decade.....adding 70,000+ to the over congested PATH.
The PATH has always been congested. Add another PATH train or two. That would certainly be more cost effective than building an HSR.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:07 PM
 
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Metros are a fair distance from one another. High Speed Rail could utilize its full speed.

Lol@turns

Is that your argument?

Weak

I'm sure HSR could minimize their speeds when necessary. They can do that whenever it's time to make a "turn".
So build HSR for whom?

People who want to travel over a few states in the morning? Go on vacation?
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:18 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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The PATH has always been congested. Add another PATH train or two. That would certainly be more cost effective than building an HSR.
There are plans to build a light Rail line connecting Jersey City Waterfront -Journal SQ - Kearny - North Newark , interconnected with a proposed Ironbound - Harrison Kearny line and the planned Newark - Paterson line. But from what i'm hearing that would only take 30,000 off....the PATH.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Wasn't this already covered here:
Why High-Speed Rail will Improve Our Economy
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:30 PM
 
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Metros are a fair distance from one another. High Speed Rail could utilize its full speed.

Lol@turns

Is that your argument?

Weak

I'm sure HSR could minimize their speeds when necessary. They can do that whenever it's time to make a "turn".
Really....So...Birmingham, AL and Montgomery, AL are 90ish miles apart miles apart....The are 2 of the biggest cities in Alabama..do you think it would get up to full speed?

Yea, turns....it really makes a difference...way to show you intelligence...

Not the entire argument but a very valid argument, you cannot make the same turn at 180 miles an hour as you can at 90 miles an hour.....sorry just cannot happen....but again.....way to go...

Lets not forget about the price either...in Korea...it was 45,000 won (about 45ish American) 1 way....from Seoul to Pusan...around 300ish Km...is that worth it? This also took around took around 2 - 3 hours....to drive 180 miles takes about the same.......think about it...
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