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Old 03-12-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Once the mandatory portion is dropped the courts cannot stop it since nothing else is Un-Constitutional. Get used to the idea health care reform will happen.
Casper
You cannot pick and choose which provisions in the healthcare bill can be kept or abolished, it's an all or nothing bill. If any portion of the bill is found to be illegal, the bill in it's entirety must be revoked.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:57 AM
 
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You cannot pick and choose which provisions in the healthcare bill can be kept or abolished, it's an all or nothing bill. If any portion of the bill is found to be illegal, the bill in it's entirety must be revoked.
Based on what?

What is the GOP's healthcare plan?
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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However, this is not going to decide the matter permanently.
It certainly could.

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This is just one more step to the Supreme Court.
If the appeals court affirms the lower court's ruling, the case does not automatically go to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court chooses the cases it hears, and since previous Supreme Court rulings are cited, it isn't likely the Supreme Court will hear the case.

Even if the Supreme Court heard the case, it would have reverse its previously rulings on Interstate Commerce. The Supreme Court has only reversed its rulings twice, and those were cases involving the slavery.

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No matter how the 11th Circuit Court rules, it will be next year at the soonest before we get an answer from the Supreme Court.
Well, again, you need to study the Supreme Court:

HowStuffWorks "The Supreme Court of the United States"

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Once the mandatory portion is dropped the courts cannot stop it since nothing else is Un-Constitutional. Get used to the idea health care reform will happen.
The mandate to force insurance companies to accept pre-existing conditions could be ruled unconstitutional as well.

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Old 03-12-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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Here's an example of what I'm talking about. You may not like the healthcare law, but it did get passed and is an accomplishment.
You just tried giving credit.. i.e. blame, to the GOP for having parts in a bill that the GOP didnt even support...

And passing a bill that INCREASES costs isnt an accomplishment.. There is a difference between an accomplishment and a failure..
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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So what is the GOP's plan?
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:03 AM
 
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Based on what?
The law..
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What is the GOP's healthcare plan?
http://rules-republicans.house.gov/M...tive3962_9.pdf
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Here's an example of what I'm talking about. You may not like the healthcare law, but it did get passed and is an accomplishment.
Passing a law that blatantly violates the US Constitution and their oath of office is not an accomplishment, it is a tragedy.
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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So what is the GOP's plan?
Anything is better than obama care....ohhh and by their own admission...won't cover all Americans anyway...so why?????????????
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Old 03-12-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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So what's the plan?
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Old 03-12-2011, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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The Justice Department said in a filing this week that expedited treatment of the case was warranted because of the far-reaching nature of the decision by a federal judge who declared the entire law unconstitutional.
To those who say Judge Vinson's ruling was no big deal.....obama disagrees with you.
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